Planet on 'path to catastrophe' as million species threatened, warns UN report

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't get your scientific information from the UN do you? It is a political body.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What, you don't believe the climate is changing then?
     
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    We are already in a major extinction period, the data is plainly obvious. Although humans can affect this theoretically we will not...hopefully we are not amongst the species that die off.
     
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    Knowing you don't have a whole life ahead of you isn't all bad.

    The time will come when the entire world will spit on the graves of those who opposed our last chance to save life as we know it. They will be marked in history as the generation that killed the world.

    I'm sure glad I don't have kids or grandkids to worry about. It would be horrible to live knowing what's in store for them.

    I will never forget the words of a lifelong marine biologist who spent his life studying ocean life. When asked if he regretted that it was time to retire, he said no, he's glad to be retiring. He doesn't want to watch it all disappear.
     
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    Doom and gloom. It's the religion of the Algorists. In order to save the world, we must tax endlessly.
    Tell me again, if the world ends, who will be left to spit on graves?
     
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    We are not destroying the planet. It a a known scientific fact that the climate cycles are continuous.
    What has never been done is humans attempting to change or stop the cycle.
    What we should be doing is developing a plan to prepare for coming changes. Like building leves around flood prone areas. And not revolutionizing homes in in areas that are repeated destruction zones. When insurance pays off in destruction of these homes, they should not be allowed be allowed to be rebuilt.

    Homes that can continually flood should be required to be built on stilts.




    in

    flood prone areas and
     
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    The rate of extinction is 1000x the normal rate.
     
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    Of course it is changing. What does that have to do with UN political hyperbole?
     
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    World overpopulation.

    The problem is not in First World English-speaking/European countries but in the Third World.

    Well actually it is in the First World now, since population from the most impoverished overpopulated parts of the Third World have been spilling over into the First World.
     
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    Nobody ever denied climate changes, its the man-made hoax that is disputed...
     
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    How do you figure? In the past single events wiped out thousand/millions/whatever in a matter of years. These rates are nowhere near that. Oh, I get it, this is that liberal hysteria shining through. God knows if they are asked about the decades of failed predictions they go silent...
     
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    A single catastrophic event isn't the normal rate of species lost. But your point is valid. What is happening is a mass extinction like when the earth was hit by large meteor.

    But this time humans are killing life on earth.

    We are talking about killing 1 million of the 1.3 million species identified. That is about 77% of all known life on earth.

    Don't mistake your ignorance as hysteria on my part.
     
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    Of course not, because reality would be getting in the way of your manufactured hysteria then. There is no 'rate' because we do not have sufficient data about any era other than our own. Anyone who tells you otherwise is a liar...
     
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    Learn how to read then how to use google. This is common knowledge to the educated.

    Better yet, read a biology book sometime.

    What a great example of how stupidity is dooming the human race.
     
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    Hardly, all past comparisons are inaccurate estimates in comparison to data sets we use today. Its intellectually dishonest to say we can compare such data and pretend it means something...
     
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    Read a book sometime. You will find it an amazing experience. ;) Read about evolution and the loss of species.

    But there is no hope for people like you. I can only hope that others will learn from your willful ignorance.
     
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    I've read plenty of books, that is why I know that what you are saying is false. There is no comparable rate, at no other time was there ever comparable data collection. You simply cannot compare incomplete/faulty data collection with day to day computerized data collection...
     
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    Climate has always changed.

    Ask the woolly mammoths.

    Oh wait, we can't.
     
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    They have a large collection of invertebrate species in the fossil record, don't you know.

    Maybe they're using time machines to go back and count the existing species 2.5 million years ago to compare to existing ones.

    They discovered 280 new species in 2018, alone.

    This tells you they don't have a frickin clue.
     
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    Science is a set of falsifiable theories. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Pascal's Wager Fallacy.
     
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    There is no "the" climate. Earth has MANY climates. Climate is not a global term, but rather, a localized term. It is typically defined as "weather over a long period of time". Weather is localized, not globalized, so climate is localized as well.
     
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    Says the people who think women can become men.

    Biology book indeed.
     
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    I'd love to see the data scientists collected 2.5 million years ago.

    Oh wait, there were no scientists. That's right.
     
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    That type of argument is old and tired at this point and does not address my comment regardless.
     

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