, So you, despite NO EVIDENCE, can read a dead person's mind and claim you know what she thought!!!! WOW! No proof there either. Where , what, who , why, how? So you lump all these diverse organizations together to prove a point? Henry Ford would not recognize his organization and how it's run, except for the brand name. You have provided no evidence that Sanger was for abortion or racist nor what that has to do with PP today.......SO I guess that's why you want to "leave it at that".... The problem here is you aren't taking the time to really examine this Women but feel compelled to simply "Take the word" from a source that mesh's with how you wish it to be. You have never proven Sanger was for abortion, the opposite was true, and you have NEVER said how or why this dead woman influences PP today...YOU can't answer that , You haven't answered that ....you can't answer that ....you haven't answered that, you haven't done your little homework, you can't answer
From wiki:"Due to her connection with Planned Parenthood Sanger is a frequent target of criticism by opponents of abortion, although Planned Parenthood did not begin providing abortions until 1970, after Sanger had already died.[ She also wanted to prevent so-called back-alley abortions,[6] which were common at the time because abortions were illegal in the United States.[7] She believed that while abortion was sometimes justified it should generally be avoided, and she considered contraception the only practical way to avoid them.[8]""" Sanger wanted to reduce abortions....she promoted BIRTH CONTROL, which she had to fight for since some idiots wanted to FORCE women to give birth. She did that to prevent women dying from trying to self abort or using poisons that killed them....and you hate her for that?
LMAO, yes she died in 1966 and legalization was in 1973, what's your point? Well at least we have debunked the whole staunch ANTI-Aborting thing! Now we just have to do enough research to "Consider" that although it's been said that Margret felt contraception was the only practical way, she also mention in great detail other acceptable methods of how to deal with the "Breathing" undesirables should they slip through the crack Not really and definitely not the whole story, not even close! Once you get passed the stubborn and view the Woman with am OPEN mind you will see her core reason for birth control. If you're simply going off todays agenda driven hearsay instead of analyzing her biographies then you will never see the entire picture! Sanger was first and foremost a racist, secondly a supremacist and lastly a political manipulator and oddly enough JUST like those nice helping counselors employed, trained and incentivised by Planned Parenhood BTW, I do not hate her, quite the opposite
No one has ever proven Sanger was a racist, not you, not anyone..... ....and no matter what Sanger said or thought abortion is legal ....and she didn't invent it as you seem to think..... I see you chose to avoid post 26 and the fact that you claimed you could read Sanger's mind.......and avoided anything else about that post ...
She openly promoted contraception and it was illegal. Didn't think it through before hitting 'send', did you?
HBO used to have a message board similar to this one but the left there were the biggest bunch of cry babies ever seen by anybody.
Either you haven't read any of her work or read and don't understand it, but not many that have ever claimed she wasn't a racist LOL. There isn't enough spin to argue by her own admission to being that and in fact a supremacist to boot! Clearly you arguing a subject you are not familiar with, take some time gather you wits and re-emerge with something substantial. Although be warned with Margret Sanger it will be as difficult as defending Ku Klux Klan and what they stand for! Here is one assignment I think you will enjoy, if, as you say Sanger was not an advocate of abortion and felt contraception to be key and only suggested abortion in extreme cases, then why has her foundation performed millions of abortions in just the last decade? How does Judge Judy put it, "Is you is or is you aint"!
You: """Here is one assignment I think you will enjoy, if, as you say Sanger was not an advocate of abortion and felt contraception to be key and only suggested abortion in extreme cases, then why has her foundation performed millions of abortions in just the last decade?"""" I see you think a question is an assignment...that's so very odd....and I see you didn't get the connection between Sanger dying in the 60's,( being dead? You do know what that is ?) and abortion not being legal until 1974... Did you think she ran Planned Parenthood through séances and mediums? Really? I don't believe in all that silly occult crap but you go ahead if it makes you feel better. No one has ever proven Sanger was a racist, not you, not anyone..... ....and no matter what Sanger said or thought abortion is legal ....and she didn't invent it as you seem to think..... I see you chose to avoid post 26 and the fact that you claimed you could read Sanger's mind.......and avoided anything else about that post ...
Again Clearly you haven't taken the time to read her Bio's or have weak comprehensions skills! By her own admission she is in fact a racist and supremacist and clearly "LISTS" the types of humans that should be eliminated and those that that should be encouraged. Of course she didn't, she "PROMOTED" her organization to suit the era where even contraception was difficult to sell to politically, privately/religiously and racially. As for the séances, mediums and occult nonsense, well that that's simple spin when one hasn't enough information to explain logic This discussion hasn't been about "WHO" invented abortion, it's been about why Margret Sanger founded Planned Parenthood and her "Questionable theology", priorities and recipients for that type of service in correlation to that time line. As for the "Avoiding" statement, considering this discussion hasn't actual advanced intellectually and has basically been you offering the same talking points over and over then it would stand to logic that if I have addressed "ANY" one of your posts then "ALL" of them have addressed many time in many different ways I think you have the wrong impression, I'm in no way a Planned Parent Hater! I honestly commend the work they have done since the 80's! Planned Parenthood has managed to get the very people Margret listed as undesirables to voluntarily cull their own., chemically and later surgically while managing to politically take tax money from anti/religious folks that simply want to give those trash canned a chance. One thing you will never hear from a Klansman and that's a disrespectful word about Margret Sanger! Even Hitler admired the women! Margaret Sanger, Sterilization, and the Swastika. AnyWHO, it's a tough discussion if you haven't taken the time to dig in to the Women or the subject. I have the advantage that the last board I frequented "Real Time" pushed me hard on this subject for months and the amount of controversial material by Sanger alone put any adversary at disadvantage! Some did very well, some did very badly but eventually the subject digressed to spin, misdirect and finally personal insults and a thread lock Just a heads up so far you haven't even reached the "Very Badly" yet, no offence meant!
All YOUR reading hasn't produced any quotes from Sanger saying, " I promote abortion, I believe abortion is good"...or "I believe other races are bad" or anything similar.... ....and your photo is so obviously photo shopped Sanger did speak to members of the KKK, women who wanted to know about birth control....but you have learned to spin the "alternative facts" abpout Sanger with the best of them, I admit you are good at that Now, since you believe PP takes direction from Sanger, could you possibly ever show any proof of that and exactly how they do that besides making birth control available to poor women.....Sanger's goal. And you can whine and moan all about Sanger or anyone else and still you can't change the fact that abortion is legal....and even if illegal, will continue unabated
I didn't notice the photo "Cropping" my apologies, although the fact remains! As I stated, I'm not a Sanger or Planned Parenthood hater and definitely not whining but actually commending her work! I'm simply viewing Sanger honestly along with her signature achievement and gift to society Planned Parenthood. Again, apologies for the fake pic
Good of you to admit you jumped the gun on "proof". You:""I'm simply viewing Sanger honestly"" (?) ..""" along with her signature achievement and gift to society Planned Parenthood.""" .....all of which has nothing to do with PP today...except they, like Sanger, are not racist nor do they promote abortions.
Well if I were to ignore logic and admit that then I'd also have to be equally naïve and believe todays Klan is no longer a racist organization because Nathan Bedford is dead And once again Margret Sanger was a Racist and a Supremacist in her own bio's she outlines who were her choices for suppression and those who should be promoted and dominate!
What you can't seem to get is that the Klan continues to promote racist ideas..... No matter what Sanger thought ( and your total lack of proof she was a racist ) Planned Parenthood today is not racist. You have no proof of that either....nothing.....going to do another fake photo as your fantasy "proof" ?
Dr. Alveda King remarked the error of Planned Parenthoods abortion-on-demand corporate ideology: The most obvious practitioner of racism in the United States today is Planned Parenthood, an organization founded by the eugenicist Margaret Sanger and recently documented as ready to accept money to eliminate black babies. Of course there are far more but lets see how well your research skills are if not that, then spin which ever is the strongest of the two
