Planned parenthood leaves title x family programs because of abortion rule

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  1. Bluesguy

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    I find nothing about killing babies in abortions funny.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I never said the woman would be charged with performing an abortion....I said they would both be charged the same, "WITH MURDER".



    THAT is what I keep asking YOU with NO ANSWER.

    I NEVER said it would be definitely murder but WHAT ELSE WOULD IT BE ?

    WHY CAN YOU NOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION?








    And DUH, my statements are based on IF it becomes illegal.


    LOOK UP THE WORD " IF" ….




    YES , since why else would abortion be made illegal? THE QUESTION YOU HAVE NEVER ANSWERED.


    :) You just can't admit when you're wrong.

    I never said the woman would be charged with performing an abortion....I said they would both be charged the same, "WITH MURDER".


    DIDN'T I ? Yes,..
     
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    Neither do I but your replies are...
     
  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Proper word usage versus your attempts to change the meanings of words is funny..............................OK :eyepopping:
     
  5. chris155au

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    I have NEVER said what they would DEFINITELY be charged with if abortion was illegal. Only you're doing that. I admit that it MAY be considered murder. I admit that in order for it to be considered murder, the woman MAY have to be charged as well - I would just disagree with it.

    If it became illegal, and it wasn't considered murder, performing an abortion could be considered illegal because it would be considered at least some sort of form of taking a human life. Just as murder, manslaughter and justified homicide are other forms.
     
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    Listen, you can dance and wriggle and squirm but here's the facts:
    (First, have you looked up the meaning of the word "if" yet? )


    IF abortion is deemed illegal it HAS to be because it's murder.

    There are no "sorta " murders. It isn't an accident, it is deliberate.

    And Anti-Choicers cannot try to look like they care about women by exonerating them from murder.

    The one who hires the murder and the murderer are charged the same.

    Did you know if a bank robber kills someone in a bank robbery, his accomplices are charged with murder? Yup....they don't say, "Oh, it's mens rhea, they didn't know robbing a bank was wrong or killing someone while doing it was murder when they were only helping out"...

    So don't be silly, IF abortion is deemed murder the women have to go to jail for life or be executed or serve whatever sentence murderers get in their state.


    Those are the facts and we've spent way too long on this...


    IF you don't agree , that's your right….but it's not facts nor law...
     
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    Not if a new law is introduced. Also, it could be something as simple the doctor performing a banned procedure, just like a doctor performing a currently banned procedure.

    That could very well be what government lawyers and legislators conclude. However, you cannot assume.
     
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    Listen, you can dance and wriggle and squirm but here's the facts:
    (First, have you looked up the meaning of the word "if" yet? )


    IF abortion is deemed illegal it HAS to be because it's murder.

    There are no "sorta " murders. It isn't an accident, it is deliberate.

    And Anti-Choicers cannot try to look like they care about women by exonerating them from murder.

    The one who hires the murder and the murderer are charged the same.

    Did you know if a bank robber kills someone in a bank robbery, his accomplices are charged with murder? Yup....they don't say, "Oh, it's mens rhea, they didn't know robbing a bank was wrong or killing someone while doing it was murder when they were only helping out"...

    So don't be silly, IF abortion is deemed murder the women have to go to jail for life or be executed or serve whatever sentence murderers get in their state.


    Those are the facts and we've spent way too long on this...


    IF you don't agree , that's your right….but it's not facts nor law...




    Here we go around and around your circles.

    That is a BIG "IF"..... a new law on murder????

    What would this "new " law look like? Your version of "women can't be charged with wrong doing" ?? " Only accomplices can be charged with a crime?


    NO, there are no "new " laws on murder anywhere on the horizon.


    IF you can't state why abortion is wrong so that it should be illegal, which you haven't EVER done, then you have no case about inventing a "new law"





    Here you go around and around again......there has to be a REASON SOMETHING IS BANNED.

    You can't just charge someone with performing a "banned" procedure...

    There has to be a law against it and the law has to have a name. It's ludicrous to just say, "banned procedures are against the law " without the law that \bans them!!!!






    YES, using law and facts I CAN assume that IF abortion is deemed murder the women have to go to jail for life or be executed or serve whatever sentence murderers get in their state.



    You have nothing and no discernable point......
     
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    Sure, it's obviously not "on the horizon."

    According to what?

    Oh, you're a lawyer are you?
     
  10. Renee

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    It was an anti choice writer!

    The writer of the article was an anti-choice person and a lot of it didn’t make sense
    None of us find killing babies funny but we do find it funny when you call a zygote a baby. Why not call it a toddler ?you could get more emotional mileage out of it
     
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    Citing the scientific body of work. Lack of rebuttal noted again.

    Don't know why you are having such difficulty here, a zygote and a toddler are different stages of a baby's life as has already been explained.

    Go argue with the US Department of Health and Human Services
    https://www.womenshealth.gov/pregnancy/youre-pregnant-now-what/prenatal-care-and-tests

    Medical checkups and screening tests help keep you and your baby healthy during pregnancy.
     
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    These abortion mills could care less:

    Thousands of fetal remains found at home of former South Bend abortion doctor.
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Actually they were teenagers

    His license had been suspended! Now you’re trying to make it sound like he was the norm.
     
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    Don't be silly the were babies. And no his license was not suspended it would do you well to educate yourself on the matter.
     
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    Educate yourself! They were not BABIES!and his license had been suspended ...and you tell me to educate myself .?Why don’t you call the fetus a toddler you could get more emotional mileage out of it
    But then someone who thinks I was serious about them being teenagers says a lot
     
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    How do you suspend someone's license when they are dead?

    GEEZ

    "SOUTH BEND, Ind.-- Thousands of fetal remains were found at the home of a former South Bend abortion doctor, WSBT reports.

    The remains were discovered while family members were searching through the home of Dr. Ulrich Klopfer, who passed away on Sept. 3. His home is in Will County, Illinois."

    Remains of all those unborn babies. I call them what they are.
     
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    It takes a second to educate yourself. His license. Was revoked in 2015!
    Call them unborn toddlers as I said you can get yourself more emotional.
     
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    My apologies I thought you meant for the dead babies found in his home. Does show you what kind of person it takes to be an abortionist. Why would I use a wrong word?
     
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    Babies? That’s like my saying when I threw away acorns, I destroyed a forest. Should I say ungrown trees.
     
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    No it's like our Department of Health and Human Resources says.
     
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    Not what scientists use to define stages of development Till doesn’t change anything.
     
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    It is very common for a woman who wants a pregnancy to refer to her ZEF as a baby. It s called personifying.People do that with their dogs all the time referring to them as their babies and they make them sound like they are human.
     
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