Please cite your best evidence of "no-planes"

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  1. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Of course he didn't see a plane....he was miles away from the center...:roll:
     
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    What about all the eyewitnesses who heard trains??
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No only do you not understand physics, you also do not understand perspective.

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    I think, I think, mere opinion from people like you that do not understand what they are seeing.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    it has nothing to do with perspective and if you think it does prove it with some example. Hell CAD it out for us you claim to work in an engineering firm, no more than 10 minutes. go for it, prove it. LOL

    Oh and you nor anyone else has put anything up what so ever in ANY thread that even puts a dent in the correctness of my physics. Be my guest prove it.
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well now, since you brought it up and you don't seem to understand perspective (or physics), it would be up to you to "CAD it out" for us to prove your silly claim. The "correctness of your physics" is about on par with your grainy gifs.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    more of your same dodging, its not me who claimed you were in error due to perspective, your continual trolling false claims and dodging is getting really (*)(*)(*)(*)ing boring.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Projection makes for a very weak argument.

    Of course I think the only person Jojo is interested in convincing of anything is himself
     
  8. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, you claimed the roof blew up by showing the sides of the building as it collapsed. You can't tell one thing from another.
     
  9. LogicallyYours

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    SHow me where Clifton Cloud has complained or made statement that his video was altered. I bet you can't.

    The more logical explanation is, he wasnt watching through his view finder when the plane hit...which would explain why he made no comments until 8 seconds after the building exploded...AND why the video was so shakey right around the time of the crash.

    Logic, you're not doing it right.
     
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    You can even hear the jet and the hit seconds later.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    oh so you think the side of the building grew 10 - 15 stories higher huh LOL

    post the daflunker site you got that from please. I want to leave a comment.
     
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    He was watching the towers, and said that many times. He zoomed in because he saw the ball which he mistook for a Police Helicopter that disappeared into the fireball. You can't falsely make that claim because he saw the same thing that chopper 4 aired. There was no plane near the back of tower 2, and Clifton Cloud is the most important eyewitness who does not need to be re-interviewed.

    "Ya, the second one I'm tellin' ya..was...I didn't see a plane...I was watching it...I didn't see a plane.

    All I saw was a helicopter and I didn't see the helicopter anymore. It just looked like it exploded from the inside."

    "Ya, but I don't think it was a plane. No, because it happened like 20 minutes later. I think it was a bomb on the second building. I think they had that bomb in there and they were like alright let's maximize it. Hit it with a plane, and then hit the bomb."

    "There was a police copter like near it...I swear, I don't know what happen to him, but. But when the second one exploded there was a helicopter not too far away."

    "Ya, I tell you man, I saw it in slow motion, that second building just went boom, just exploded from the inside out, just like a movie, like a cheap movie which was really weird...it was like a 1970's Charleton Heston movie."

    "It was unbelievable, I mean it exploded from the inside, that second one."

    NIST FOIA: Clifton Cloud Clips 7-9 - YouTube

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLVxWUbPDU
     
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    Please post Clifton Clouds comments, statements or complaints that a plane has been added to his video. I challenge you to do that.

    I know you can't because, his video WASN'T altered. He just didn' know, at the time, what he captured.
     
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    Of course he didn't know what the ball was because it was an unknown floating object. He didn't know what the black blob was or just the ball, or both?:roflol:
     
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    There was NO 'ball'

    And you can't prove there was
     
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    His video clearly shows a plane. Who added the plane and why isn't Clifton Cloud complaining that his video, his property, was vandalized with the addition of a plane?

    Are you being obtuse for a reason?
     
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    There was no ball. The object in the video is a plane...which is why you see the wings affect the background of the Hudson River as it moves over the background. Both you and KoKo are completely incorrect.
     
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    There was a ball. The object in Cloud's video is nothing...which is why we all see no wings and a fake object appearing out of thin air, right of the light pole.

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    Listen, ray charles....there are clearly wings on the video and your blowup. Either you're blind or dishonest. Which is it?
     
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    He didn't see any plane. That's a fact. He saw an object which the media fimed accurately at least four times, the ball. Nothing will change these facts that Cloud himself provided in his video. You aren't blind but wholly dishonest.
     
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    Just because he didn't see a plane does not mean there wasn't one and in fact his camera did see it and recorded it's sound. Just because you blow up a picture until it is so grainy that it has no detail doesn't mean much of anything.
     
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    Show me where Clifton Cloud said he saw a ball, an orb, a blob....post his statement about seing an object.

    And then answer the qluestion why Clifton Cloud has no complained that his video was altered. I CHALLANGE YOU.
     
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    I posted it many times. He mistook it for a chopper that vanished into the fireball. He didn't know what it was. Are you claiming that Clifton didn't know what a plane looked like?:roflol:
     
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    So, he mistook "it" for a chopper. The real answer here is, Cloud just didnt see the plane for one reason or another but, he did capture it. Another fact is, Cloud is not complaining that his video was altered because, it wasn't.

    How did his friends, who were watching the same thing nearby see a plane?...why are they not confused?

    You're ridiculous.
     
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    Did Cloud NOT know what a plane looked like?:roflol: Are you now speaking on behalf of Cloud?:roflol:
     
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