Please explain this to me.

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by Moriah, Dec 4, 2020.

  1. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    not everyone but the majority here are so ive got plenty of food in that respect. In society, like if we were eye to eye im sure it would be more of the concealed type or just plain ignorance..it wouldnt take long to determine, face to face but here is another matter. Racists are very prideful here.
     
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  2. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    The history you read is whitewashed by eurocentric soothe sayers. How would you feel if everything you were taught about history was lies?
     
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    Stop trying to make up history. That's dishonest, and easily debunked. Any other awesome conspiracies? Reptiles took slaves, but ONLY black guys?
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are right again Esau - English is not my native language, not even 2nd. And you right saying that I "butcher the english language doesnt bode well for your comprehension in future discourse as is evident here" - this is the reason you are getting more "likes" than me. Keep the good work!
     
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    Buri Well-Known Member

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    When you’re unable to convince people to buy into your obvious fiction, go grammar n***. That’ll teach em!
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    If you spent more time trying to refute my points rather than talking about me you might actually learn something about YOURSELF or are you scared of finding out about that?
     
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    You peddle lies and deceit, it is your avatar after all. Plus you have debunked zero. You only wish but the truth is truth and you shall have to deal with it as much as you hate to.
     
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  8. Esau

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    Thats not grammar n***. His grammar is horrific.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Esau, please repeat you your points and remember: the best answers to ridicules claim is a sarcasm.
     
  10. Moriah

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    I agree. Thank you.
     
  11. Moriah

    Moriah Well-Known Member

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    Being anonymous gives them courage.
     
  12. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How true! "They" have a courage only because "they" are anonymous.
    I must to admit - I would never contradict eye to eye Esau's claim that there was not slavery in Africa. Why? Because I have no courage.
     
  13. Esau

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    Chattel slavery was invented by whites in america. Facts.
     
  14. zalekbloom

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    Esau, you made me very happy – and this is not a sarcasm – it shows that even sarcastic person like me can be a teacher. So you changed your view from “There were no black slave owners in africa” to “Chattel slavery was invented by whites in america. Facts.”

    Well – according to some educated people your new claim not true.
    What is “chattel slavery”? According to Wikipedia :
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#Chattel_slavery
    As a social institution, chattel slavery (traditional slavery) denies the human agency of people, by legalistically dehumanising them into chattels (personal property) owned by the slaver; therefore slaves give birth to slaves; the children of slaves are born enslaved, by way of the legalistic philosophy of partus sequitur ventrem ("That which is brought forth follows the belly").[20] They are also bought and sold at will, as a result.[21] Although chattel slavery was the usual form of enslavement in most societies that practiced slavery throughout human history, since the 19th century, this form of slavery was formally abolished.[22]

    So according to the above, chattel slavery was not invented by Whites in America.
    But this sites also states:

    Africa
    Slavery existed in Pharaonic Egypt, but studying it is complicated by terminology used by the Egyptians to refer to different classes of servitude over the course of history. Interpretation of the textual evidence of classes of slaves in ancient Egypt has been difficult to differentiate by word usage alone.[57][58] There were three apparent types of enslavement in Ancient Egypt: chattel slavery, bonded labor, and forced labor.[59][60][61]

    Also:
    Systems of servitude and slavery were common in parts of Africa, as they were in much of the ancient world. In many African societies where slavery was prevalent, the enslaved people were not treated as chattel slaves and were given certain rights in a system similar to indentured servitude elsewhere in the world. The forms of slavery in Africa were closely related to kinship structures. In many African communities, where land could not be owned, enslavement of individuals was used as a means to increase the influence a person had and expand connections.[157] This made slaves a permanent part of a master's lineage and the children of slaves could become closely connected with the larger family ties.[158] Children of slaves born into families could be integrated into the master's kinship group and rise to prominent positions within society, even to the level of chief in some instances. However, stigma often remained attached and there could be strict separations between slave members of a kinship group and those related to the master.[157] Slavery was practiced in many different forms: debt slavery, enslavement of war captives, military slavery, and criminal slavery were all practiced in various parts of Africa.[159] Slavery for domestic and court purposes was widespread throughout Africa.

    Anyway, to learn about slavery this site is a good start:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery
     
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    I don't think he knows you can google this answer.
     
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    I know what you mean I have always hated space aliens..
     
  17. Esau

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    your own wiki article agrees with me.
     
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    The text from Wikipedia agrees with you 100%.

    Here is the exact quote which agrees with you:

    "There were no black slave owners in africa, because when a Black person in Africa owned a slave, he was not a slave owner, he was a slave friend”.

    Another quote:
    “Because the slave owners in america were 99% white, so that makes the Black slave owner in America a White person".

    Did you write this Wikipedia page?
     
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  19. Esau

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    is there a parrot in here?
     
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    Yep! A parrot and the echo.

    Parrot: There were no black slave owners in africa
    Echo: There were no black slave owners in africa, because when a Black person in Africa owned a slave, he was not a slave owner, he was a slave friend.

    Parrot: the slave owners in america were 99% white so that makes the slave owners white doesnt it.
    Echo: Because the slave owners in america were 99% white, so that makes the Black slave owner in America a White person.
     
  21. Esau

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    you can go round in circles all you like on this forum thats the great thing about it but get your priorities right and go and celebrate christmas with your family.
     
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    Agree.We can go round in circles all we like on this forum thats the great thing about it, but we should get our priorities right and go and celebrate christmas with our family.
     
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    Why is race-based slavery the "epitome of evil"? Because you're obsessed with skin color?

    How is the race-based chattel slavery of the Atlantic slave trade worse than the rape-based sexual chattel slavery of the Arab slave trade?

    The Arab slave trade lasted far longer than the Atlantic slave trade, it involved widespread rape and castration and concubines and harems, and it only ended when European colonialism ended it.

    How was this not the epitome of evil?

    Slavery on the Barbary Coast - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Slavery_on_the_Barbary_Coast
    Slavery on the Barbary Coast (see Barbary slave trade) was a form of unfree labour which existed between the 16th and 18th centuries in the Barbary Coast area of North Africa.
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    White slavery - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org › wiki › White_slavery
    Jump to Barbary slave trade — Barbary slave trade[edit]. Main articles: Barbary slave trade and Barbary corsairs. The Barbary Coast.
    White slave trade · ‎Slavic Slaves · ‎Crimean Khanate · ‎Ottoman slave trade

    Barbary Pirates and English Slaves - Historic UK
    www.historic-uk.com › HistoryUK › HistoryofEngland
    Barbary slaves. The Barbary slave trade even features in Samuel Pepys' diary, in an entry from 8th February 1661: '…went to the Fleece Tavern to drink; and ...
     
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    idont celebrate christmas. go and unwrap your presents buddy.
     
  25. Esau

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    unless you can prove that EVERYONE was raped during the arab slavery then it cannot compare to race based slavery of the whites.
     

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