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  1. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Go down, Moses Way down in Egypt's land. Tell old Pharaoh Let my people go.

    A catchy tune based on a cool story, bro.

    But it's a myth.

    Were Jews ever really slaves in Egypt, or is Passover a myth ...
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    The Egyptians built the pyramids.

    Sorry.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Nonsense.

    Ignoring history doesn't make it go away.
     
  3. Esau

    Esau Well-Known Member

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    its true, unless you can prove that rape was pre requisit [as was being black in the white slavemasters day] for the arab slavery then it fails in being as evil as the trans atlantic so called trade, further more, rape and torture was widely practiced by whites during slavery ALSO
     
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    Yes, rape and sexual slavery did occur in the Atlantic slave trade, but it was a bug, and not a feature, like it was in the Arab slave trade.

    Sexual slavery was basically the entire purpose of the Arab slave trade.

    The evidence for this is found in the very DNA of modern-day North Africans, where you'll find plenty of mixed-African-descent DNA, but you won't find purish African-descent DNA like you'll find in North American blacks.

    That tells you something very significant about the differences between the Atlantic and the Arab slave trades.

    The Arab slave trade was basically rape, genocide(eugenics), and sexual slavery on a grand and industrialized scale. It was about acquiring as many sexual slaves as possible(harems), and eliminating the competition(castration) for access to those sexual slaves.

    And that's not the "epitome of evil", because reasons.

    It's only evil when Whitey does it.
     
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    the evidence for mass rape by arabs is the fact that north africans are mixed between arab and african?

    lmao. how about inter marriage, never thought of that one? smh.

    the fact is, white slavemasters would routinely rape black woman. the marranos of suriname are a whole nation of ppl born of this.

    so yes, unless you can find me a law in arab society that said to rape every african then it still stands that the laws passed by white americans that stated every black person must be a slave were the most evil laws ever written.
     
  6. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Inter marriage? African sexual slaves involved in the Arab slave trade were absorbed by inter marriage?

    That's hilarious. You're adorable.

    How about all the castrated eunuchs? Did they get married and live happily ever after in North Africa too?

    Seriously, stop your skin-color obsession, and crack open a history book already. A real history book, and not whatever Black Hebrew Israelite nonsense you've been reading
     
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    inter marriage through the migration of arabs across north africa over the last 1,000 years. not hard to understand. maybe youre too washed up in White Jewish European propganda to comprehend this.

    there were written laws made by whites that condemned somebody based on something they personally had no control over as a means to eradicate a whole ehtnic group. did the arabs have written laws condemning africans to be victims of rape?

    of course not, youre desperate to defend the the trans atlantic slave trade because you know it is the foundation of your queendom.
     
  8. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Of course the Arabs had written laws which governed their practice of sexual slavery. The prophet Muhammad himself was the author of some of those laws too.
    The history of written slavery laws go back way before that though, and it wasn't Whitey who wrote them.

     
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    so what verse in the koran does it state that ALL africans should be raped, men and women. or if youre feeling not so brave, just the rape of EVERY african woman, ill wait..and if you give up on that then just find me any arab law that states all africans should be raped, or just the women, you choose.
     
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    Show me a law that says they shouldn't be raped.

    Take your time.

    I'll wait.
     
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    Cannot prove a negative. Ithought you were smarter than this...you really asked me that?!
     
  12. Creasy Tvedt

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    Not only did sexual slavery exist in the Arab slave trade, amassing a large collection of sexual slaves was a brag-worthy accomplishment in the Arab world(and elsewhere).

    The 10 Largest Harems in History
    https://futurescopes.com/non-monogamy/polygamy/417/10-largest-harems-history

    Check this guy out-

    King Tamba of Benaras The distinction for owning the largest harem in history could well belong to 6th century BCE King Tamba of Banaras. It is believed that his harem included some sixteen thousand inmates and was presided over by the chief queen Sussondi.

    But that's not "the epitome of evil", because why? Because there were no specific written laws that forced him to do it? Is that why it was a-okay, and not at all evil?

    It's weird how there are no white European guys on that list, huh?
     
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    Got a primary source for king tamba?
     
  14. Creasy Tvedt

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    Do you seriously need me to do your homework for you?

    Are you trying to deny that harems and sexual slavery was a thing in the Arab world?

    Because that would just be weird.
     
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    Idid look but could find nothing. So its etiquette for you to offer a primaey source but its no big deal.
     
  16. Creasy Tvedt

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    And again, what's your point? You seem to want to focus on the minutiae, while ignoring the obvious fact that widespread sexual slavery in the Arab world was a historical reality.

    Are you intentionally trying to ignore the clear and obvious fact that the Atlantic slave trade wasn't the exclusively and uniquely evil enterprise that you'd like to believe it was?
     
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    My point is, im trying to determine if youre a raging white supremacist that has no no primary sources. Thats the general protocol on "political forum" given the default of hardcore white racist.
     
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    Of course not EVERYONE was raped during the Arab slavery - many were killed fighting Arabs or died during the passage to Islam countries, which proves 100% not EVERYONE was raped during the Arab slavery then it cannot compare to race based slavery of the whites.

    And here another reason why the Arab slavery then it cannot compare to race based slavery of the whites:
    Slavery in America continued as long as to 1863, while Arabs/Muslim slavery ended very early:in Iran in 1929, in Oman in 1970 , in Saudi Arabia and Yemen 1962.

    Esau, continue to teach us history of slavery.
     
  19. Creasy Tvedt

    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Rather than face facts, you're just going to throw around labels and and insults.

    That's intellectual cowardice on your part.

    Let me know when you're prepared to get past your childish temper tantrum, and you're ready to discuss historical realities.

    I'll wait.
     
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    No one is accusing you of anything. Still waiting on your primary source. The one common factor here is that it is blacks who are the victims.
     
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    Slavery is still legal in america isnt it?
     
  22. Creasy Tvedt

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    You're clearly more interested in making silly attempts at insults than you are in discussing historical events, and considering source material.

    The point you're strenuously, and intentionally, missing is that whites are not the sole, or even the most evil, victimizer of blacks from the historical perspective of worldwide slave trades.

    The Atlantic slave trade was not "the epitome of evil" when it's compared to the Arab slave trade, was it?

    Um, no. As much as you'd like to believe blacks are extra special victims, history says otherwise.

    Barbary Pirates and English Slaves - Historic UK

    www.historic-uk.com › HistoryUK › HistoryofEnglandFor over 300 years, the coastlines of the south west of England were at the mercy of Barbary pirates (corsairs) from the coast of North Africa, based mainly in the ...

    Research Suggests White Slavery Was Much More Common
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    Mar 7, 2004 — Most other accounts of slavery along the Barbary coast didn't try to estimate the number of slaves, or only looked at the number of slaves in ...

    British Slaves on the Barbary Coast - BBC
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    By Robert Davis. Last updated 2011-02-17. The fishermen and coastal dwellers of 17th-century Britain lived in terror of being kidnapped by pirates and sold into slavery in North Africa. Hundreds of thousands across Europe met wretched deaths on the Barbary Coast in this way.

    Europe under attack · ‎The slave's lot · ‎The European response
    The White Slaves of Barbary | Ancient Origins
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    May 23, 2019 — The slaves captured by the Barbary pirates faced a grim future. Many died on the ships during the long voyage back to North Africa due to ...

    If there's a single common factor involved, it would be that whites were the liberators of slaves.
     
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    No, it's not.

    You're being silly again.
     
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    Primary source for king tamba?? Any chance?

    As for spamming arab slavery stuff, continue. Since all it does is re-affirm who so called black ppl are.
     
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    Ithink youll find it is, written into the constitution..shocked?
     

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