Please tell me exactly what "Systemic Racism" is! I'm very serious....

Who among us has not had a job application rejected, refused, or, even ignored...? Was that "Systemic Racism", per se...?

People who are desperate to 'find something' WILL find it, somehow, whether it really exists or not.

. "Dude, TRUST ME -- there is a Jewish plot to take over the whole world!"

 

High cheek-boned people who add affiliation with protected classes because they feel it will provide them with an advantage notwithstanding.

 

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the president whose companies hired them, didn't deport them. the president who said he was against illegal immigrants. Got it.

If the republicans hire them for cheap labor, why won't they vote for the party that gave them jobs? That's mostly what they want, jobs, that's why they come.

 

Wink wink and nod nod do not describe something that’s systemic.
What you are describing is old attitudes. The best way to deal with it is to let this phenomenon die on its own. With each generation Americans get used to each other’s differences. I liked the strategy of early 2000’s - race was non-existent. Everyone was “colorblind”. If you let these attitudes last another 3-4 generations this wink-wink and nod-nod will disappear on its own. Look at the progress the US made in the last 100 years! Shoving down race into every issue (something that we saw in the last several years) will cause the opposite effect as everyone starts to think in racial terms.

 

What you say is largely true... prior to the 21st-century, it was the norm that most illegals were just people who wanted to work, make money (both 'above' and 'under' the 'table'), send the money back to the country where their families were -- and go back home themselves for a while.

Then along came wonderous "Messiah" Obama, and the balance shifted. It was during Obama's regime that we started seeing hordes of 'migrants' (NOT "temporary workers") tramping all over the roads, swamping border checkpoints, spread all over the tops of buses and trains, and being smuggled in in big tractor-trailer vans, where many died because of heat and dehydration.

This whole wretched, illegal situation reached its height in 2014, and the subsequent "deportations" that Democrats brag about were little more than 'revolving-door' operations, where the illegals (many of them criminals) came right back into the U. S.!

A lot of Conservatives (like me) enthusiastically support skilled citizens of other countries coming in and doing jobs that we Americans will not, or CAN not do anymore. I can't even imagine a gang of American Millennials or (worse) Gen Z'er's trying to put a new roof on a house! I also support making it much easier for alien workers to get whatever 'work permits' they need -- so that they can work, make money, pay their taxes, AND THEN GO THE HELL BACK HOME!

The last thing we need now (especially during the pandemic) is swarms of migrant peasants streaming into the country unimpeded, looking to get on the 'welfare gravy train' -- a very real and potentially very terrible "Obama 2.0", which is taking shape as we see more and more of what 'most-Progressive-president-in-history' BIDEN is going to unleash on us....

. "ASILO! ASILO!" (Asylum! Asylum!)

 

IF YOU SEE MONKEYS AND THINK OF BLACK PEOPLE, YOU’RE THE RACIST: University axes ‘three wise monkeys’ from conference promotion due to ‘racial stereotypes.’

“Experts in the field differ: ‘The monkey is a sacred being. They are vehicles of delight.’”​

Universities are now largely run by ignorant people concerned that other people might be offended by things they don’t understand.

 

This is systemic racism, 30 people shot, 7 people dead in one weekend and no one on the left wants to talk about it unless they can blame someone other than the people doing the shooting.

30 shot, 7 fatally, in Chicago over weekend
https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/...shootings-jan-23-jan-25-homicide-gun-violence

 

It will, as I said earlier, 3-4 generations need to pass.
It was dormant in the early 2000s, then a black skin man was elected president. The underground racists woke up. The the very next president, gave them a platform from the highest office in the land. Culminating somewhat on Jan 6, 2021.

 

Can you prove cause and effect:

 

We should not need to wait for "3-4 generations need to pass", Dairy. We have true, legal racial EQUALITY BEFORE THE LAW today! That was the miraculous and wonderful thing about the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965! It is what matters! It is the only thing that DOES matter!

But what we've seen ever since 1965 is the radical Left agitating endlessly that in SPITE of the fact that ALL American citizens have been fully equal-under-the-law, now for over 55 years, there is somehow, some ill-defined, imaginary "Systemic Racism" that must be 'corrected' by the application of various neo-socialist concepts and methods which always end with the suggestion that Blacks should be given unfair advantages, while those of other races should suffer discrimination of various kinds against them by the same government!

All discrimination -- for OR against any American citizen -- must be seen as unconstitutional and FLATLY FORBIDDEN! Or else, we'll just continue to get more of this nonsense, and the rioting, rampaging, pillaging, arson, looting, etc., etc., etc.

 

Laws don't change people's minds. Almost nothing changes people's minds.
Society and how kids grow up, instill the mindset of their generation. As they grow up with race being less and less a concern, it becomes a non issue. But the older mindset generations need to die off to rid some concepts.

It was a horrible thing that happened when interracial marriages were allowd. Today, most no one cares. There's still a few racists that it bothers.

I know not what you speak of when talking radical left. That is just boogie man talk from those who don't want to deal with reality. Is there a radical left, sure. Just like there's a radical right wing. They make noise but are largely ingnored. Unless they riot and kill.

While it's illegal for systemic racism, the minds of those who were for racism still exists and still hold some power. See the former Iowa representative Steve King.
Those like him need to die off and/or become less significant.

 

Ya think?

Well I agree with that! But above you referred to "imaginary systemic racism".

"Imaginary"? No systemic racism in America? Here are 4 reminders that show 100 years of racism. And it's pretty damned hard to claim with a straight face that it isn't systemic!


100 years of racism in policing ....





(Compare parts of this with events at the Capitol on Jan. 6.)

 

You can cite numerous 'one-off' instances of racial troubles, and some of them were very destructive, indeed -- like the whole 'Rodney King' fiasco. But that does not (NOT) make such incidents "SYSTEMIC".

As I've said, over and over, since 1965, the only "Systemic Racism" there has been in the United States is found in "Affirmative Action" (i.e., "reverse-discrimination") programs, various race-based 'quota' hiring systems, and, the one that almost NOBODY knows anything about (except those who benefit greatly from it) -- Government contractual awards that are literally 'set-aside' so that nobody but owners of minority-owned businesses can even compete to get them! Many millions of dollars go to these companies -- doing jobs and providing services that other companies could perform for much less expenditure in many cases!

In lots of those instances where a minority-owned company "wins" the contract, they have to SUBCONTRACT it to other, larger companies which are NOT 'minority-owned' because the minority-owned company simply cannot do the work at the stipulated performance levels. BUT, the minority-owned primary contractor must (MUST) get at least 50% of the contract revenue, whether they do any part of the work or not! Check it out! I'm NOT making this up!

This is absolutely true! It is obvious, blatant, flagrant, SYSTEMIC RACISM -- but, in favor of minorities. Now, how is any of THAT fair?!

 

This seems more like disparate impact than racism: