Facts relative to the world around us are not what you decide they are. They are what the scientific method has given us the best justifications for. Planet make up is well beyond the scope of anyone to decide without science. Putting items in a different category is an organizational tool. If new facts come to awareness, any item is subject to change in catagoy. People aren't stupid.....but they are ignorant of how science works. You've given little information to show differently. Science is a primary tool in decision making in everything that affects the people. We've had people in orbit off and on for 50 years doing research and sending unmanned probes into out of space. No one is making an attempt to send humans anywhere. As soon as you send people, it becomes astronomically more expensive. It's way too expensive and unnecesssy. This commercial effort has nothing to do with mining anywhere on other planets, which is where this discussion went off the rails. We're not going anywhere for the foreseeable future.
Go get a science book on any natural science and read it . In biology we organize animal and plant life by phylum, class, order, species etc. and some organisms over time have been reclassified as different characteristics were revealed in the organism similar to the reorganizing here. I NEVER saw an uproar amoung you politically anti science and global warming groups complaining how science was increasing expenses while reclassify anything. It's the same as anti evolutionists complaining how science can't be trusted while you had your vaccines and anti biopics. Complainers of science are politically motivated frauds.
I never stopped calling it a planet, so at least I will not change. A specific size in order to qualify was arbitrary from the get-go. As well as its orbital path. Anyways our ancestors gave it a name as they did the other planets, after mythological gods. All except for earth of course.
Do you then eat your B'fast cereal and non fat milk because, Science said (or did) those complex carbohydrates are good for you, 30 years ago. Making fatter and fatter everyday. Carbs & Science Yum!
They were good for you 30 years ago in moderation for energy content before HFCs were added and it became the staple of most people. Science can only reveal the truth at one point in time. It’s not responsible for people not eating their fruits and veggies the rest of the time and depending only on these nutrient deficient foods for everything. You’re really not a nutrionist are you....thought so.
One of my favorite professors was one of the longest living insulin users in the early seventies. Got on it before anyone knew what a "unit" was and it was brown, not clear. As a physician I was preaching the 10,000 BC diet I made up until I found out it was called the Paleolithic Diet from Science magazine. Carbs make great treats but, lousy sustenance. As a physician, the primary nutritional deficiency I diagnosed was iron deficiency in Vegetarian women. (I would try explain Hindus had thousands of years of genetic selection for their diet and ask, do you want to be in the first generation of genetic wash out?) Even diagnosed one lady with B12 deficiency and that takes years of B12 deficient diet. After that it was Orange Babies, hypercaroteneism from excessive green vegetables at a very young age. How'd I do, Chief BTW Nutrition is NOT just the chemistry but also the velocity of absorption. Adults were not designed for juices. Eat foods that need a whole length of gut to process. Not just the first twelve inches as with B'fast Cereal and Non Fat Milk <ta da> BTW What is My total bill for the deplanetization and replanetization of Pluto? Science.
Your original remarks were pretty one sided. The problems with the typical American diet is not in the consumption of complex carbs, or juices or any food in particular. The problem is the lack of variety and getting all the necessary nutrients. The average healthy individual has nothing to fear from a single glass of fruit juice, or a Big Mac or anyone other junk food. The average American has much to fear by not each enough of a variety of foods. Science and basic food groups have changed somewhat over the years, but that basic premise has been in existence for ever.People get obese overtime for many reasons, but one thing they have in common. They don’t eat enough of the right foods and are literally starving themselves of nutrients they need. They become perpetually hungry and continue down the rabbit hole of eating singular high calorie, low in the necessary nutrient foods.
Wrong. Try this. Beef is 3 of the 4 major Food Groups Chocolate (includes coffee) is the other. Everything else is miscellaneous. Or, Nothing mashed, pounded, ground or juiced except meat in hamburger / sausage. What walks on hooves (includes birds eggs and pork) or grows on trees. Bread does not grow on trees. Whole Milk, never fat reduced. (fat keeps tummy feeling filled longer via delayed stomach emptying). Graze. A good time for nuts, cheese, fruit, or more meats. Limit if not avoid fish. Before WW2 nations' diets were more restricted. And pathology more a national trait. Major fish eating countries Japan & Norway were Kidney Disease nations. Fish is hard on the kidneys. More nitrogenous waste in a gram of fish protein than land animal protein. Add to that the heavy metals and oil soluble pollutants now prevalent in fish and I will stick with land critter. And remember, save the fast absorbing foods for treats, not sustenance. Includes pasta as a treat, not a means of sustenance. Live on foods that are slow digesting. Don't eat anything you could feed a baby. You feed a baby juice, milk, and could feed baby bread and pasta in a pinch. You cannot feet baby meat no matter how much you make it into a paste. And cheat on "treats". I have stacks of lab slips of patients cholesterol and triglycerides and ratios improving when they change their diet to the above advice. Basic physiology, rough course difficult to digest foods aid the excretion of cholesterol you make yourself. Slower to digest foods lowers triglycerides. Although one is eating more "triglycerides". Most of the "bad American Diet" today is a product of the misinformation about diet and cholesterol content. I mean Atkins Diet lowers cholesterol. Although it is full of it. You going to believe Science or direct observation. I did this with my patients. <sigh> don't get me started. One month I happened to have 3 young FOB Asian men patients. 1 Vietnamese, 2 Chinese. All were on Blood Pressure medicine and two were on Diabetes pills. They were not associated, it just happened. I told them they could only eat as much rice as they got in the old country and if they were still hungry it had to be meat, chicken, fish, vegetables, fruits, nuts. No sugar, cake, candy, potato, pasta - y'know. In 3 months they were off all medicines. ttfn
I don’t know what your trying to say, but it really isn’t Germaine or contradictory. All the foods you’re prioritizing are foods high in nutrients. Many Fruits are loaded with “sugar” yet are still necessary for their nutrient value and ruffage should be prioritized. But you say no sugar ? I guess you’re refusing to read everything. There is NOTHING WRONG with a cookie made from scratch without preservatives. There is if comes at the expense of foods with nutrients. When you say “ no sugar” it’s missleading. We should be educating people instead of just providing a diet without specificity. Not all fruits or nuts would fall into your limitations...you should know that. Neither are all types of fish suitable nor is just saying “meat.” and fish separately without being concerned with fat content with either. We at home prioritize eating with fruits and vegetables at the top of the list, but we don’t deny ourselves Bryers ice cream, a beer, wine and an occasional treat made from scratch. My wife and I have almost identical vital signs. My last total cholesterol was 137, BP 95/60 and resting pulse rate in the mid 50s. Exercise and movement are just as important as are foods and occasional high energy sources while playing golf in warm weather. That’s including electro light drinks with some sugar which will kill no one and cause no harm if you’re getting your nutrients first. So include some raw fruit as well ! Inactivity is a huge killer and exercise should always be included with a nutrient rich diet. The one drink you don’t mention that We should prioritize, is WATER, and a sufficient amount of it. It doesn’t appear anywhere on your list and SHOULD. It is one of nature’s best mitigation systems aiding digestion and discouraging the over consumption of nutrient deficient soft drinks. I would rather see people taught about proper nutrition then just give them a list of foods....but then, that might be too scientific. Lastly, the big killer is processed foods regardless of its sugar or cholesterol content. Processed meats and poultry with chemicals that are only there for convenience of the food producer are all huge factors.....and not mention by you.
@dagosa Sorry I didn't have time to write the whole book Yes to water. Keep the urine clear Beware low cholesterol. Associated with strokes. And Where Is Pluto in all this? A course or just an appetizer. Chopped liver?
At space shuttle speed, it takes 23 years to get to Pluto. You’d have to grow your own veggies , drink your own urine and maybe practice catabolism to get to Pluto......and for what ? Mineral rights ?
You could have something there. Still, I’m constantly reminded that fast food industries pay big bucks to their engineers to make their junk foods so much better tasting, they become habit forming. Here is a quote from one study.. “understanding of the principles that control the prevention or formation of a crystalline sugar phase is quite important in the development of satisfactory food products. Sugars are present in many foods, varying from naturally occurring products such as honey to formulated foods, including jellies and gels as well as confectioner” In other words, paying attention to sugar crystallization helps develope “more satisfying food products” then what naturally occurs. It’s a scary world and why sone fast foods can become habit forming for many. The content in natural foods then becomes less satisfying taste wise.
People can eat anything they wish to eat as long as they can balance their diet. And this is the rub in which few people pay enough attention to their diets and the short and long term effects. Most people are ignorant about nutrition. And just like climate change, people with unhealthy diets, usually won't see the worst effects until it's too late...out of sight out of mind. Further, I'm amazed how many people today are grossly overweight and lethargic and surely they will have latent medical issues. But this stuff is not a priority for most people...
I generally feel the same way...except, your choices of foods should come from a stock that minimizes preservatives and hfcs. It’s nearly impossible to get a balanced meal at some fast food places regardless how many salads you order. In general I agree....eat foods that are high in nutrition first....then, there’s nothing wrong with a dessert. I’m not surprised. Fast foods low in nutrients actually taste better after a fashion and people get hooked on sugar and ignorance. You're right, much of funds going into healthcare should go to illnesses related diabetes. It’s time for preventative healthcare. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/diabetes-could-top-336-billion-by-2034
The realist in me says nothing will change. Lots of people suffer health issues, even from young ages, but seldom is diet and exercise considered. A huge chunk of people don't cook and rely on restaurant food and prepared foods, both of which are less healthy and are more expensive. And, people are generally quite happy when eating and drinking, much of it a social exercise. We're off topic on this thread...
Just when you thought it was safe to look at a night sky and . . . . https://www.livescience.com/63716-pluto-earth-moon-are-planets.html By this revised standard Pluto is a planet. So is Earth's moon, and the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Just more Diving For Science Dollars. Does anyone really support planethood for Moon? We all know the Moon is Not a Planet and Pluto is. Moi
It’s all about perspective. Pluto used to be a planet when the observers were “normal” sized. Now we’re a nation where 30% of us are obese and everything looks smaller after we look in the mirror, including Pluto through a telescope. People less then our “new normal” become dwarfs and Pluto is renamed a dwarf planet. It’s relativity at work.
