Police Execution Squads, the Tyrannical Government that Supports them.

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  1. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To make a long story very short, I was chased by a police car once a long time ago, though I would never knowing have run for the police. It was night, he didn't turn his lights on, and I thought the car was the car of two hoods who had chased me just prior to this and I thought I had outrun them. I outran the police car too (all I was seeing was headlights in the rear view mirror. But a few minutes after I had parked that police cruiser came charging it. Only then did I learn this second occasion was a police car.

    I asked him why hadn't he turned on his lights and hit his siren. His exact words? "It's been a boring night and I enjoy a good chase."

    That's the problem here. Police work can be incredibly boring. For many officers, chasing a car is a lot of fun, they really do enjoy it. Its a challenge. They get to play chase, drive fast, and actually do what they see as police work. In this video, that officer was telling the other two cars to let him by because he wanted to push that driver, that officer wanted to play chase and be a cop getting the bad guy.

    In the end, he shot 3 people, killing 1 of them. What crime were the other 2 he shot suspected of? None whatsoever. Police chases OFTEN end up with people seriously hurt or killed, and often it is not the driver or just the driver they are chasing. Usually it is innocent people in the car the runner T-bones in an intersection trying to get away.

    In my opinion, this chase should have been aborted.
     
  2. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not the point of the ruling, and those details don't matter.

    What SCOTUS found was that by driving at speeds exceeding 100mph the car was endangering the lives of innocent people on public roadways and pedestrians, they found that continuing to operate the vehicle by trying to get away after stopped was an extension of that danger to others and the police.

    It doesn't matter if the vehicle was actively trying to hit the police, the actions of the driver represented a clear and present danger to the public of potential death or great bodily harm.

    Due to that circumstance, the police were not only authorized to use deadly force, they were required to use deadly force to prevent the car from evading and possibly harming someone.

    It's no different if someone robs a bank with a deadly weapon, then is shot in the back by police running away.

    The court also found that the passengers had no right to sue under those circumstances.

    So yes, this case is 100% parallel to the SCOTUS ruling based on the aspects they evaluated.
     
  3. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe you're equating your personal experiences to what you think happened in this case.

    Your case is different. If he didn't turn his lights on or indicate to you that he was a police officer you had a case.

    As far as people getting harmed evading the police....well duh. Don't run from the police. It can get you dead.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The car starts moving again while the officer is firing, which is probably why the passengers got shot.

    Those people are dead/wounded not because of the actions of the police, but of the driver.

    The blame for this rests solely on the shoulders of the driver.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    This is absurd apologist nonsense. The unarmed driver was not firing a gun at the passengers, the cop was. Victim blaming.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Victim?

    Who stole the car then attempted to evade capture and put other people's lives in danger?

    The driver, who is solely responsible for the event.

    The apologist nonsense comes from those of you who try to paint criminals as victims.
     
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  7. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah as in murder victim.

    Wrong question, wrong situation. The question is who fired the gun into a car full of unarmed people?

    Wrong answer, The answer is the cop who is solely responsible for the murder of unarmed INNOCENT civilians. Yes INNOCENT unless and until proven guilty by a legitimate court of law.

    A criminal is one who has been tried and found guilty in a legitimate court of law after being granted all due process protections guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and as required by the cop's Oath. You don't know what you're talking about apologist. Even criminals are guaranteed certain due process protections (see 8th Amendment for example).
     
  8. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The driver was putting members of the public at threat of death or great bodily harm. The police are required to use whatever means necessary to stop the driver.

    This includes deadly force, and as I have said before, there have been SCOTUS rulings addressing this fact.

    Driving a car exceeding 100mph on public roads presents the threat of death or great bodily harm to others. That is a perfectly justifiable case of lethal force.

    The driver is no innocent, and your attempts to paint him that way are pathetic.

    I'm glad he'll never have the opportunity to harm anyone else, since he has already demonstrated his willingness to put other people's lives in danger.

    A criminal is a person who is currently committing a crime, which he clearly was committing multiple crimes.
     
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  9. Bob0627

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    The driver was driving away from the scene, how was he "putting members of the public at threat of death or great bodily harm"? You're making *** up to support your apologist mentality.

    Murder the driver AND the passengers for what, the cop's creative imagination?

    SCOTUS also claims corporations, a paper created fiction, have the same protected rights under the Bill of Rights as human beings and that money equals speech, among other absurd rulings. So much for the credibility of SCOTUS, a rogue branch of the pretend US government. SCOTUS constantly rules in favor the Police State at the detriment of The People, the ones they have taken an Oath to protect the individual rights of.

    1. That wasn't the case,
    2. There is no justification in murdering INNOCENT people just because they were leaving the scene.

    Your understanding of the doctrine of innocent unless and until proven guilty is non-existent, never mind pathetic. Making **** up to try to support your apologist mentality doesn't do much for your own credibility either.

    Wrong, the cop, who has demonstrated his eagerness to murder INNOCENT unarmed people is still alive and will always have the opportunity to murder another INNOCENT victim as long as he is alive. But at least you're happy with the results.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Facts:

    The driver was trying to evade lawful arrest.

    The driver stole the car. The passengers may or may not have been involved.

    The driver was driving at speeds exceeding 100 mph.

    The driver was driving illegally and lost control of the vehicle at least once.

    The driver's actions put pedestrians, law enforcement, and other drivers at risk of death or great bodily harm.

    The police are required to prevent felonious activities that endanger the public, to include usage of deadly force.

    The driver was a criminal in the active commission of felonious actions.

    Clearly your ability to use logic, reasoning and comprehension of facts is sorely lacking.
     
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    DAMN! they even killed the dog. The man was over killed. What a terrible place this nation is now. Crime has risen 1000%. Cops are on edge and acting like the environment they live in these days. Like packs of wild animals in the jungle dealing with wild animals in the jungle.
    Stress to day is worst than anytime in our history for all of us.
     
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    I look at many of them and they look and behave as though they are in the UFC, and on top of this, they are armed to the proverbial teeth thanks to Program 1033. If my preceding commentary sounds like a tinfoil conspiracy, I cannot help that, but my assessment of the situation is that this nation is on the brink of becoming and outright police state.
     
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    Some people deserve getting the hell beat out of them. But there are those who never should have been approached by the cops at all. If a cop comes up to you don't act like Tarzan or Jane. You don't have a chance and so keep your mouth and actions low key.
    Most cops are ok but the ones who are acting like thugs and killers need to be reported by those who don't.
     
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    I couldn't watch all the video, it is too painful.
     
  16. AlifQadr

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    Not my experience. When I lived in NYC, the NYPD only bothered me once and then after that time, they stopped bothering. I now live in Westchester County New York and it seems that all of these cops up here have mental problems, I am not a criminal, do not drugs, do not drink alcohol or even smoke cigarettes, yet these cops up here look for an excuse to harass, harangue, and arrest. Because of this, I have grown to hate cops.
     
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    Maybe try to have a conversation with one and see if they leave you alone? Don't know.I had a black neighbor who told us he did this and every since they are nice to him. I think the whole world is gone nuts and I try to not get too upset but it is hard.
     
  18. AlifQadr

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    Yeah right. I am going to attempt a conversation with a BLOOD-THIRSTY BEAST, which is not going to happen. I prefer to stay as far away from them as possible. I am not a civil rights person, not in the least. I know that the police are the armed wing to protect White Supremacy, and being that I am anti-White Supremacy, I keep my distance. I refuse to have any more of my bodily integrity compromised, an anchor baby who is a White Plains, NY cop has already caused AC Separation, that I cannot afford to have fixed. I loo at them an I see RED, BLOOD RED! The little sawed-off SOB needs to go back to the country that his parents come from, and so how the people in that country mete out justice for an unwarranted assault on an innocent person.
     
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    I'll discuss this one in a little detail later. BLM,Feds, State police all involved in taking land for China,Russia sold by politicians. The poor cows are burnt pretty bad in this video, plus family home gone up in flames.
    Ties in with Asset Forfeiture.

     
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  20. Kokomojojo

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    Its great to be part of something isnt it?

    Even if its the problem...

    Enjoy the pretty colors, and with highlights too, just for you.

    SAN FRANCISCO (BCN/KTVU) - Police on Thursday showed the body-worn camera footage of a fatal officer-involved shooting that occurred last week in San Francisco's Bayview neighborhood to an emotional crowd during a town hall meeting at a church. What the crowd learned: The officer who shot California state Lottery carjacking suspect Keita O'Neil was unarmed when the rookie officer - four days on the job - pulled out his gun and killed him.

    Police revealed that a rookie office was sitting in the passenger's seat of a patrol car shot when he shot at an unarmed O'Neil through the car's window, striking O'Neil once. Although police released footage from that officer's body-worn camera, police did not reveal the officer's name. The officer had been riding with a training officer on his fourth day at work.

    http://www.ktvu.com/news/sfpd-shows-body-cam-footage-from-fatal-police-shooting
     
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    where are all the anti-government right wingers to demand an assertion of 2d Amendment rights and for the disarming of the government???
     
  22. JakeJ

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    The problem is that DA's WANT to lose cases against the police to try to avoid the mega-million dollar judgments then against the same local government.

    The solution is to eliminate liability for the governmental entity UNLESS it can be shown the government/police department caused the officer to break the law. Put the liability on the police officer. If so, then DAs no longer have reason to want to lose prosecutions.
     
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    A car can be used as a weapon...looks like the driver tried to tun the officer over.
     
  24. BodiSatva

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    The cop was to the side of the car...
     
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    Only if the cop was standing directly behind the car... which he wasnt.
     

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