Police fire tear gas at Pride parade activists in Istanbul

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  1. Thingamabob

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    ... and the whole of the Middle East.
     
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    Thingamabob Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :above: :applause: :above:
     
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    You stumbled off the path now. "Straight people" do not hold hands and kiss their loved ones in public in Moslems countries. It is against moral law. So ...... gays being allowed to do it? I think not.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    A bit like the one who boasts the loudest having the least knowledge on the subject.
     
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    What you are really saying is, "Bash all those who are pacifists and against confrontation !!!"
     
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    How often do those who rape gay men to punish them ask themselves how they manage to do it?
     
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    In Iran a Mullah’s signature can be arranged ‘after the fact’.
     
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    Sure ... but you can't blame the one side without ignoring the other side of the coin!
    Where was the Christopher Street Day again born and why? It happened not in any Muslim country and not due to Islam religion ... it was in the USA and the situation in most other Western countries was for gays etc. not better as in the US!

    Anyway ... Erdogan was always a piece of **** and not only about handling of gays in his country. The problem what I have with your reasoned accusing against Turkey here is that you do only because you find out that they are Muslim.
    That for example the situation for gays in Hungary under Orban is right the same is ignored by you, because why please?

    Sorry, even if the criticism and the allegation is completely justified ... BUT .... if you abuse the incident again just to incite against Islam as always, is your credibility in the matter = Zero!
     
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    It's worse in Turkey.

    Again, what you neglected to consider is Istanbul is the most liberal progressive part of Turkey.
    If they tried a parade in other parts of the country, crowds of muslims would rip them apart. The police in those areas would probably withdraw, and let the crowds have their way.
     
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    Certainly ... the secularism of Kemal Atatuerk in Turkey was finally buried by Erdogan. And since he had the absolute power as a monarch in the Absultismus since the self-initiated coup attempt (alternatively, he had known and let him happen sowate), would be the one you said happen quite.

    Just do not underestimate what the Orabn does in Hungary!
     
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    Ah, you know how 'faith' works. Everything is "I'nch Allah" otherwise it wouldn't happen. I have often given it some thought myself: Violence, men, and chubby Waltrout have never spurred an erection in me so I am of the firm belief that if Willy rises to the occasion then I reckon you must be "one of those" otherwise you'd be rendered limp.
    I don't doubt that for a second. I was in Iran at the end of 1979 when chaos reigned and I am willing to believe just about anything.
     
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    You are complaing about my calling alt-right and ANTIDA thugs morons?

    Thats relling me more about you than I expected
     
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    I agree :wink:
     
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    It was banned and banned for the 5th year which suggests it used to be allowed.
     
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    No, not in all....there was a time when Western gays used to take refuge in the ME. It is however looking more like with the rise of extremist Christianity in the US, that gays will soon be having the same problems there.
     
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    It isn't against Christianity, just about extremist Christianity. All extremist/fundamentalist religions are much the same.
     
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    A black man even looking at a white woman was considered rape in the South and resulted in his murder.
     
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    You really do not know that. Keep Repulican's with the mentality they have now in power and I would bet you would and very quickly at that. Some of your states have all but by word made abortion illegal now. The American Christian Right and Neo Con's were working in Africa trying to get them to bring in the death sentence for Gays - and if anyone is against Christians it is the Christian Right. They were telling the people in Africa that these Christians telling them about rights and trying to arrange for them to get health care and education were the new Imperialism trying to destroy them by getting them to accept gays who they said were Demons come to destroy them.
     
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    Do you have a source for your comments about Africa? I the USA, Gay marriage is becoming common. If you watch American TV you'll see more and more Gay characters. I contrast, there are no
    positive Christian characters (or conservative) on TV. These are hardly signs that widespread persecution of Gays is coming. If the Democrats run a moderate they will win the next election and undo
    any of Trump's policies they want. Unlike Trump, they will have the media and Hollywood on their side. If they run a left-wing extremist for President, they may lose.
     
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    I believe the claim is god did. Just as the bible was also a book of standards by the same god.
    It's why some think being gay is akin to being a murderer. Some fantasy land they have going.
     
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    You hear that SJW's?

    You're going to let these fascists get away with this?

    Get on those airplanes and handle it!
     
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    Most every religion is against freedom. Especially those inspired by the hebrew god.
     
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    Yes, and just as the Christians were making "leaps & bounds" head-way out of the fog of superstition we got saddled with fundamentalist from the east who are pushing us backwards 6 centuries in time.
     
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    Are you referring to Emmit Till?

    He was guilty, and he got what he deserved, and I believe that, because I'm a male feminist, and I always believe women.
     

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