I wonder why we have to pretend that a dead person was a great bloke or ignore his failings? I read somewhere that it’s a primitive fear of evil rebounding on the detractor.
For me, it's because they can't answer the accusations. There are double standards at play though. I would have no problem maligning Jimmy Saville for example. Some rude prick on an anonymous internet forum should probably just be left alone so his friends can grieve. This particular poster had made numerous personal attacks against me including calling me a pedo but I wasn't going to use his memorial thread to get back at him.
One man's personal attack is another man's idea of funny. Again to be fair, nothing was said about him which wasn't said to his face when he was alive but it was the effect it was having on his friends which was unacceptable to me. I didn't like the guy and he'd shown nothing but animosity towards me from day one but I figured that if you have nothing nice to say then it is better to say nothing.
Dear Sally, I meant to write you sooner, but I've just been busy. You said you wanted a thread about the dead, now where is it? Look, I'm really flattered you would publish that, so here's an answer, I wrote it in a PF-post. I'm sorry I didn't quote you sooner, I must've missed you, I don't think I did that stuff just to diss you. But, what's this thing you said about a death-thread? I say that thing is clowin', dawg. Come on, how messed up you is you? You got some issues Sal and I think you need some counsellin' to help your arse from bouncin' off the walls when you get downsome. And what's this thing about posting about death from your friends account? That type of stuff will not make it count. I really think you and the forum members need each other or maybe you just need to treat them better. Anyways... I hope you get to read this letter and I just hope it reaches you in time before you do some crazy thing. I saw this one thing on the forum a couple days ago that just made me sick; some poster was on the glide and posted about their own suicide and on the forum they found and IP-address but didn't say who it was from. Come to think about it... Her name was... It was you. ...Dayum.
Interesting that his grieving friends were saddened. I suppose it’s incumbent on a friend that you grieve when a friend dies but it has always surprised me when a death causes a change in attitude.
Most of the unpleasant things he had posted were drawn along the usual conservative v liberal battle lines. Interestingly the guy badmouthing the dead was as far right as he was though. His lack of forgiveness was based on unpleasant things that had been said about his wife.
That’s a bit rough, attacking his wife. Some people would shrug it off but others would see it as a deadly insult, as this one did.
As an individual who is unfortunately in line for the eventual thread in question, I can only state I will not care or see whatever is said and any negativity will be a reflection of them...not me.
One of the saddest things about funerals is the fact that the dead don't get to hear all the nice things people say about them. I don't wish to pry into your situation but I'd like to take the opportunity to say what a great person you are. When I, and the other refugees from another forum, first arrived here you were very welcoming to us in our welcome thread. Since then I have followed you (in fact you are the only person on my follow list not from the previous forum) and have found you to be kind, intelligent, funny and inspirational. Here's hoping you will be around for a long time to come.
Okay....thank you so very much, and I truly mean that. But to be clear before this gets out of hand.....I have MS and my demise is not imminent. just inevitable. I merely wanted to make a point in this thread....The dead wont know what is said about them and this is something I have reason to think on.
To be fair, all of our demises are inevitable. Maybe we should all be more prepared to say nice things and less inclined to hate on each other.
That is a very wise and thoughtful position, one I personally embrace and would be extremely beneficial to anyone who does so, as well as those they interact with. I would hope others take it into consideration and allow perspective into their thinking.
I participate in another forum, where a poster let us know he is in last rounds of fighting cancer. He and I have always been at diametric opposites - even when arguing on the same side of a subject. Yes, it's possible because of the WHY. Any way, in his parting thread, I acknowledged he had been a viable contributor, and that his thoughts were unique. About as PC as I could get when someone who has insulted, labeled and paint brushed anyone who didn't agree with them deserved. I don't carry grudges, and I can agree on one subject and strongly disagree on another, with the same poster, without being nasty about it. It's called being an adult.
My daughter decided that our 35th wedding anniversary would be an album of photos and notes from friends and family. She confided in me so as to obtain all the contacts she needed and neither of us told my spouse about it. It took several months and as it was nearing the deadline my daughter asked me to include something. That made me wonder how was I going to say what I wanted to say WITHOUT it coming across as a eulogy? Since mine was to be on the last page I still had a little time and did manage to finish it. My daughter gave her the album and she was delighted. So to your point about the dead not hearing what others will say AFTER they are dead I am of the opinion that we should it say to them BEFORE they die. Our loved ones should know how we feel about them on a daily basis because none of know for certain when we are going to die.
Stalin transformed a fairly backwoods and largely illiterate peasant country into a world superpower, Hitler restored pride to a demoralized nation and was good with children and animals and Trump..... nope, I've got nothing.
The BLOTUS is trying to turn a superpower into a "fairly backwoods and largely illiterate peasant country".
Mao did the same for China! My "ex" Russian Father In Law was a Stalinist. He believed only a strong man could lead Russians considering their contrarinesses. He was a child during the Great Patriotic War and he Trader Joe's Oatmeal Cookies because they reminded him of the "treat" father Stalin might bestow on children. Except the Trader Joe's cookies had raisins.