Poll about JFK Assassination: Who Killed JFK?

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Who Killed JFK?

Poll closed Sep 21, 2017.
  1. Lee Harvey Oswald; acting alone

    37.0%
  2. Lee Harvey Oswald was the trigger man; but as part of a larger conspriacy

    40.7%
  3. Lee Harvey Oswald was one of multiple triggermen.

    22.2%
  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Sure Dr. NO, the US government always tells the truth, everyone knows that.
     
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    Sure and everyone knows that those who criticize government never lie either.

    It works both ways junior.

    You fail to look at both sides of the argument and only consider one which is the true sign of gullibility. You never fact check when hearing accusations and assume they are always right and the government is always lying
     
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    The lies of the Warren Commission are so voluminous and pervasive they have spawned a cottage industry of researchers who have
    published a library full of well documented books that tear apart the Warren Commission narrative.

    I don't know a thing about the 9/11 issue but I do know the JFK coup inside and out and it's absolutely shameful that there are still
    complete fools spouting off their ignorance and denials about an issue they seem proud of their cluelessness in.

    The people of America, for the most part, have never bought the crap the Warren Commission put out.
     
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    Wrong.

    If your claim were true it would simple and easy for you to specifically cite any part of the commission report which is false or proven wrong but you never have done so and make lame excuses why you cannot.

    Yes conspiracy theory is an industry and was around long before the Kennedy assassination which simply made it bigger. What you got right by accident is that it is an INDUSTRY dedicated to making money through selling books and movies and conventions and any number of other commercial products. As such only a fool would strictly pay attention to only what conspiracy theorists say without fact checking and examining the other side.

    Which is precisely what you have done. We know you have never bothered to read the Warren Commission report or any other work which refutes the conspiracy theories and refuse to ever do so.If you did you would find many of your cherished notions shattered.

    You do NOT know the JFK assassination inside and out and that has been proven you have only selectively cherry picked a few people who you agree with and ignore any real evidence.

    There was no coup and the evidence proves it was one man acting alone.

    Since you disagree stop running from the challenge and present some credible evidence and name on specific part of the warren commission report which is false
     
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    I have constantly given you Warren Commission facts which you simply lie about and I'm not going to waste my time and efforts any longer
    (like most recently I named two law enforcement officers who signed affidavits
    attesting to the Mauser 7.56 rifle found on the sixth floor of the Dallas school book depository just after the shooting...which you
    denied....same with the gunpowder paraffin tests given to Lee Harvey Oswald which demonstrated he had fired no rifle...you simply deny blatant facts)
     
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    That is an outright falsehood.

    You have always and consistently only made blanket generalizations about the C report and you have never cited or quoted any specific part of the WC whatsoever.

    You have never stated one fact of any kind at all from the report.

    No you did not provide any link showing any such affidavits what you provided was a link which merely questioned the fact that they admitted to having been mistaken when they thought the rifle was a mauser. The link you provided clearly questioned this ADMITTED mistake but provided no evidence that it was anything other than a common error.

    You ignore fact that parraffin tests DO NOT prove that someone has NOT fired a rifle they can only prove one has and half the time when one has fired a rifle they fail to find residue which is why they are unreliable and not credible evidence as you claim.

    Those are facts and they prove you wrong.

    Now stop lying and cite one specific part of the WC and evidence that it is false
     
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    :roll: I've stated plenty of errors in the commission narrative
    which you simply lie about, like the Mauser, like the lack of gunpowder residue on Oswald's cheek. You are pathetic, frankly.

    If you want to prove that sheriff's deputies Craig and Boone did NOT provide an affidavit attesting to the presence of a Mauser 7.56 on the sixth floor of the schoolbook depository
    then be my guest. I've already provided that particular link twice to you, at least, and I'm not going to that trouble again so you can simply lie and deny what you cannot handle emotionally.

    If paraffin tests prove when someone HAS fired a gun, and Lee Harvey Oswald tested negative for that test (not only that test but a more sensitive Spectragraph test, which the Warren Commission itself determined excluded the possibility of Oswald having fired a rifle, as already cited in a post yesterday) what is your point? :roll:

    You appear to be insane.
     
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    You have never stated any error whatsoever or cited any part of the Warren Commission and you KNOW you are lying outright to claim you have,

    So one more time cite one part of the WC report which is wrong or false and provide evidence.

    Those are NOT citations of any thing the WC stated which is false.

    There was never an affidavit which states a mauser was found. The officer who first found the weapon ADMITTED that he simply mistook it for a mauser. The link you provided stated clearly that this is what happened and then tried to make a case that he was not mistaken.

    The link you provided offered no affidavit whatsoever.

    That so called piece of evidence of yours has been PROVEN false By the very source you cite. No Mauser was found end of story.

    And you know it.

    Parraffin tests prove someone fired a weapon LESS than half the time

    LESS THAN HALF THE TIME.

    They are unreliable tests and not evidence of not firing a gun as you claim which was proven even BEFORE the Kennedy shooting.

    Now you have never cited the WC report in any way I am not asking you for your debunked and proven dishonest claims which you keep repeating I am asking for a specific reference from the WC which is wrong or false.

    Stop being a cowardly liar and answer
     
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    Your rant is insane and maybe being wrong so much makes you say the
    outrageous insulting things you do. In other words...go **** yourself.
     
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    No it is quite logical and factual.

    You simply hate being debunked and proven wrong.

    Now cite any specific part of the report which is false. You have never done so.

    Cite any evidence which proves a conspiracy. You have never done so.
     
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    The bigger problem is the US government lies ... just about all the time and especially about the most important issues.

    Your posts sound like junior high school mentality, that would make me about 4 times your age son.

    Check the mirror, that sounds just like you. Any fool who believes the government published the truth about the JFK assassination and 9/11 has got to be the epitome of gullible.

    I don't ever believe the US government about anything. What idiot would? The track record speaks for itself. Therefore, the likelihood that an alternate version is true is nearly 100%.
     
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    It's never happened. Not by you, anyway.

    The so called murder weapon was not found first thing on the sixth floor of the school book depository. In fact it wasn't there at all. What was up there was a Mauser 7.56 rifle as identified and sworn to by two sheriff's deputies. But I believe I already mentioned that.
    Just like I already mentioned the gaping exit wound in the BACK of JFK's head. Just like I mentioned the windshield that had a hole in it
    and was removed from JFK's limousine and replaced.

    Oh...and who placed Oswald on the sixth floor just prior to the shooting? No one. http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/girl-on-the-stairs-refutes-p-c-jfk-narrative/
    This link, which goes into greater detail about the Mauser 7.56 you so frequently lie about, debunks the WC narrative when it comes to placing Oswald on or near the sixth floor and does it using Warren Commission testimony too.
     
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    Preach it brother! People who defend the Warren Commission narrative are either mentally ill, weak minded, too dumb to read or getting a buck defending
    what everyone else sees as a lie. They are sell out liars like Bill O'Reilly or Gerald Posner.

    It only takes a minor bit of research to see what fakery the white washing of the Warren Commission was. That some people defend a coup
    d'etat anyway sickens me and makes me question the sort of nation we have that produces such quislings and cowards.
     
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    You say that the US government lies all the time or nearly all the time and that is an assertion you cannot prove. One can get technical and state the government never lies because it is merely an entity where as only people can lie. Now it is certain that many people both high and low withing government have lied and do lie but to claim they always or nearly always do is a stupid statement that requires massive evidence so provide it or you are merely wrong and uninformed and preaching from authority which you do not have.

    Furthermore you missed the real fact that many other people lie as well especially if they have something to sell such as books movies etc.

    Once again you willfully ignore that you blindly trust with absolute faith a bunch of people you have never bothered to fact check or verify simply by looking at the other side of the issue.

    You have not done this or you would have provided a specific reference to either report which you accuse of being false you cannot do so because you are not even familiar with what they say.

    You have never business questioning other people's maturity when you mock people with names like dr. no.

    Grow up if you want to discuss something otherwise just accept that you have been spanked.

    You, like all acolytes of conspiracy theory, claim the other side is gullible but it is strictly projection it is you and your best friend who are the gullible one you have not and refuse to even TRY to examine the issue from a neutral position and try to find some facts. I have looked at both sides you only and exclusively cherry pick what supports a pre determined belief rather than truly exploring.

    This clearly and irrefutably probes you are the gullible one not me.

    So according to you every inmate in every government prison needs to be released because they are all innocent now who is gullible?
     
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    Wrong.

    As has been proven those who defend it bothered to read it.'

    Those who constantly lie about it ( you ) have no clue what it says or what it reports. You have never bothered to read it and are frightened and too chicken **** to do so.

    I have asked you repeatedly to cite one passage or quote from the WC which is a lie or wrong and you run away and never have even made an attempt to do so.

    Cite one specific part boy.

    You have never done any such research as you say because any such research would require reading the WC report and Posner's book as well which you have never read.

    Al you have done is cherry pick some obscure and debunked websites and videos which is not research.

    Now stop chickening out and cite a part of the report which is false or wrong
     
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    You are lying again.

    You know I have repeatedly debunked you and proved you wrong/

    The weapon was Oswald's Manlicher Carcano which beas a superficial resemblance to the mauser.

    They did not swear to any such thing they admitted that their first impression was of a mauser but also admitted they were wrong.

    That is fact which was even stated in the link you failed MISERABLY to use to support your completely idiotic claim''

    Sorry little boy no mauser and no oath from anyone that they found one or you would have provided evidence.

    I gave you names of people who placed him on the sixth floor just prior and you are lying about that as well.

    Bonnie Ray Williams And Charles Givens both saw him there just prior to the shooting and Givens spoke to him.

    Nothing in your link even refutes those facts although they do provide some interesting facts you ignore.

    The link ONCE AGAIN shows that the officers ADMITTED to merely mistaking the weapon for a MAUSER. THAT IS CLEARLY IN YOUR LINK.

    They did not find a mauser and that is proven,

    God it is so easy to crush people like a retarded **** roach when they give you the evidence to do it with as you have done
     
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    The proof is all over the place. I don't need to prove anything to you, you bought the lies, enjoy them Dr. NO.

    No that's according to YOU liar. You wrote that, not me. Despite your fallacious drivel, every single coerced plea bargain agreement, which the US government tries to extract from everyone accused of a crime by the US government and under threat of long term incarceration or worse is a LIE. Thanks for bringing that up gullible one.
     
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    No it is according to YOU, your exact words were that " I don't ever believe the U.S. government about anything. What idiot would ? ". Post # 36 of THIS THREAD.

    Now you cannot have it both ways either they are lying about everything which means by definition that every person in government prisons is innocent or you DO believe them.

    I never said a thing about plea bargains YOU said they are all lies. Yes that requires proof so show some proof.

    Yes YOU DO have to prove something little boy you have made extraordinary assertions which are either complete fantasy or you can show proof,.

    Now cite one specific passage from the Warren Commission report or the 911 report which is wrong or false.

    If you cannot than you are saying is a proven lie based on massive ignorance.
     
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    Does the Manlicher-Carcano bear the words "Mauser 7.56" stamped on the barrel? Because sheriffs Craig and Boone both attested to seeing that on the weapon they found. As a matter of fact add the name of Seymour Weitzman to the name of law officers who saw the Mauser left on the sixth floor.
    Thanks for reminding me. Captain Fitz took charge of the weapon and it was immediately destroyed, no doubt, when the middle level
    conspiracy managers discovered Oswald was supposed to have used "the humane weapon" (the Carcano Manlicher).
    Dallas DA Henry Wade also made reference to the Mauser.

    Just a flat out bald faced lie! I've provided multiple links on that issue. What sort of miserable scum bag simply and
    boldly lies about matters of fact?.

    Dallas motorcycle cop Marion Baker identified Oswald himself on the second floor just moments after the shooting in the presence of building manager Roy Truly. It's all in the Warren Commission report. Why not read it sometime instead of playing the fool?
     
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    They did not testify to seeing any such inscription on the rifle they only stated that they mis identified the weapon as did deputy Sherriff Boone.

    You are stating an outright lie to claim they found a mauser. All the men involved KNOW they found the carcano which merely looks like a mauser and they simply made a mistake.

    Here is the testimony from Deputy Sheriff Boone which you have already been proven to be lying about.
    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/boone.htm

    And here is Weitzman's testimony which also CLEARLY shows he was merely mistaken when he FIRST identified it as a mauser.

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/boone.htm


    Even thought it is already established you lied and even your own links proved you lied this one destroys you.

    HE clearly states he did not handle the weapon or look at it closely. It was stated by Deputy Boone That Captain Fritz said IT LOOKED LIKE a mauser.

    Looking LIKE something is a not a statement that it IS that same thing.

    The only liar and coward and laughing stock here is the ass hat who claims the officers SWORE it was a mauser.

    But that little retarded charade has been put to bed and you are irrefutably debunked crushed and PWNED.


    No it is you stating the lies. That is proven fact.

    I have proven you are lying and humiliated you .

    You have never cited any specific mistake or lie or error from the report.

    He was seen on the second floor because that is where he went after the shooting.

    Now cite a specific lie or error from the WC which you have never done.

    Provide some evidence WHICH YOU HAVE NEVER ****ING TRIED TO DO.

    Go ahead now stop lying and stop acting cowardly Show a citation from the WC which you have never done.
     
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    Never saw Boone recant his claim Please give me his exact quote.
    And even if he did that leaves all the other people who did not get pressured into calling a Mauser a Carcano.
    What a joke!
     
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    Gave you a link with his exact quote and testimony the only reason you did not see it is that you did not read it.

    Here it is again READ IT.
    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/boone.htm
    He did not get pressured and neither did anyone else.

    It was a simple mistake and you cannot prove otherwise.

    The joke is you.

    They found no mauser they clearly stated they simply THOUGHT it was a mauser AT FIRST.

    There is no evidence they lied or swiched rifles or were pressured to do anything else.

    Now that you have been proven wrong and debunked AGAIN cite a specific part of the WC which is a lie and do not claim you already have because you know that would be a bald faced lie
     
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    I asked for his exact quote. Don't give me a page of unrelated gibberish again!
    Looks like you can't come through and I'm not surprised at all.
     
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    It is not gibberish and it is in fact precisely about the rifle and he states he only THOUGHT it was a mauser AT FIRST.

    This is exactly what your own links said

    I did come through only a coward refuses to read evidence and that is what you are doing but you DO KNOW you have been crushed

    It is so easy making conspiracy theorists into my bitch
     
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    So you were lying, again, and cannot show where the one single sheriff gets
    intimidated into changing the truth of this story? Buh bye!
     

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