Poll. Germany or USA - Which country has the more advanced technology

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Who is more advanced. USA or Germany?

  1. USA is more advanced

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    53.4%
  2. Both are equal

    10 vote(s)
    13.7%
  3. Germany is more advanced

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    32.9%
  1. StealthDefender

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    Germany is as advanded as the USA.

    Just as countries as Belgium, Sweden, The Netherlands or Denmark are as advanced as the USA.
     
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    Technically, he didnt say "as advanced", he said "more advanced".

    But I guess the answer is the same either way.
     
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    The question is a bit vague, and should be more specific. Advanced in what way:

    -Militarily
    -Culturally
    -Economically
    -Technologically
    -A more advanced society
    -Medically
    -A more advanced lifestyle

    There are a lot of areas by which a nation can be judged. I'm sure that Germany is more advanced in some areas, and the US is more advanced in others. I'll just show my ethnocentrism and vote for my favorite. :)
     
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    The question originally came from a military thread, so I think the OP is talking about the military.

    I think America is still more advanced in all the areas you mentioned anyway though.
     
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    Germans, by far.
     
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    Examples?


    ....
     
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    I like that single serve German (?) espresso maker, Kroenig?
     
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    They haven't lost anything since WW2; America's lost a couple.

    Technology is the application of information for a specific purpose; if America can't achieve its purposes, it must not have good technology.
     
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    How many have they fought since WW2?


    Um...where did you get that idea. LOL

    If I build a nuke, my technology is still more advanced than someone else who cant build one, even if I never use it or have no intention of ever using it. Practical application does not define how advanced technology is.
     
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    So, you've been proven quite embarrassingly wrong. That's hilarious.

    Technology is the application of knowledge for a specific, real-life purpose. If America cannot achieve real-life purposes, like in Vietnam or Afghanistan, it must not be using the right technology.

    Technology can be strategy, equipment, or machinery— as definition 2 will tell you.
     
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    LOL, hardly.

    Source > no source. I win.


    So if I fight my neighbor with a shovel and win, I have better technology than the US government, because it lost in Vietnam.

    Your definition of technology is retarded.
     
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    Your source agrees with mine.

    You have better technology, in that instance, than your neighbor. That's what it means. We're mentioning Vietnam because we're comparing two governments. One that has achieved its goals (no war since, no problems) with one who has not (lost wars and huge retreats).

    The application of science and information can include tactics and intangible things, which America must be lacking in.
     
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    A good example would be the Bay of Pigs Failure.

    America had better equipment and so forth; but their tactics were poor— they ended up losing. They had inferior technology: the application of said equipment and tactics.
     
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    Holy qualifiers batman! Why on earth would you say "in that instance"? Could it be that overall the US does have better technology?

    Gee, I guess that means that I do not have better twchnology overall than the US then huh? I wonder if that same applies to Germany and the US. I guess that would mean that Germany doesnt necessarily have better technology than the US just because the US lost a war, huh?
     
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    Yeah, that is a great example.

    According to you, the fact that the US chose to pull punches means that Cuba has better technology. Yeah, good luck convincing people that Cuba has better military technology than the US.
     
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    I would say that because things could change, your neighbor could come back with an ax, your neighbor could be a better gardner. But we're talking the current and the military; so Germany has proven one thing that the US hasn't: it can achieve its goals via the application of science and information.
     
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    How is pulling punches a good military strategy? Tactics and strategy are a part of technology; as they're an application of science. The US had a worse strategy and lost because of it.

    Too many people misunderstand the term 'technology'; not my fault.
     
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    Is that a joke? Do you really think every single engagement is all out war?

    There are lots of reasons to pull punches.


    In this context, we are talking about the TOOLS used in tactics and strategy. Computers are technology. Tanks are technology. Weapons are technology. Maneuvers are not technology.


    Oh the irony.
     
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    That is not technology in this context. We are talking about weapons technology in the military sense.

    I think the fact that you have to resort to semantics to allow Germany to have superior "technology" says all that needs to be said about this thread. LOL
     
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    Then that's poor strategy, which, by definition, is a part of technology. The application of a science. In this context? You can't limit the definition of technology to one line; it has several definitions for a reason as all are applicable.

    In this context? In what context? It's the definition as you and I have shown. The application of information for a practical purpose. Tactics are an application of information for an obviously practical purpose.

    You're misrepresenting what 'technology' is.
     
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    Not this definition.

    It is possible to have superior technology but still execute its use poorly. That does not suddenly mean the technology is inferior. Your definition of the word is quite bizarre, and is not commonly used in the US.
     
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    It's the same definition you and I posted; it's the first definition.

    Poorly executing plans and equipment is poor strategy and tactics; which means you failed to properly apply science and information for a practical purpose.

    If you have poor execution, you have poor technology. As per the first definition.
     
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    Did I stutter?


    The context of this thread. I thought I just said that.


    Why not?


    That doesnt mean all of them apply simultaneously.


    Perhaps you should start a poll and we can see for sure.
     
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    That is your personal interpretation. The definition does not actually say that.


    If I have a machine gun and the other guy has only a rock, I still have superior technology even if I fail to hit him with the machine gun. The technology is independent of my use of it.
     

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