Poll: Most Americans support charging Trump with Jan. 6 crimes

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  1. btthegreat

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    You realize that applies only to proceedings that can take his life liberty or property. We don't have that power here at PF because we are not jurors and so we don't need to apply that standard. He's as guilty as sin and the only people who don't see that by now are the deplorables Hillary was talking about.
     
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    Hahaha! I am glad to see you admit that these "hearings" are not a serious affair.
     
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    He isn’t filthy at all and the only people who think he is are the hyper partisan irrationals he spoke of.

    the radical left is simply just feeling’s, and hope to condemn him and in the end it won’t work.
     
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    Exactly lol.
     
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    No.
     
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    I am glad you see that there is no due process requirement or standard to meet. These hearings serve a largely legislative purpose and are not designed to provide final criminal justice. There will be no judicial finding of guilt, and no sentence post conviction. That does not mean they will not serve as vehicles that provide valuable testimony and evidence for prosecutors to work on when seeking indictments and it does not mean a historical record of events is not being created. We are already seeing the effect of these hearings and it is exactly what I anticipated.
     
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    The effect is the left cheering nothing burgers and claiming victory over it lol, meanwhile life continues as normal.
     
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    normal? Paying 3x for fuel what we did in 2020?

    Paying 2x for groceries what we did in 2020

    that aint normal
     
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    I have no problem with all of those who personally believe he is as guilty as sin…In their humble opinion.

    I also, have no problem with all of those deplorables who personally believe he is not guilty as sin… In their humble opinion.

    The bottom line concerning this “hope” of taking Trump down so he can’t run in the future Presidential Election is only about…

    All the voters…that will all place their singular votes based on their personal belief of guilt or innocence concerning Trump and the Electoral College Count and not the popular vote.

    But all of this only matters if…Trump decides to run again in the next Presidential Election.

    And just how happy or unhappy all the voters are at the end of the 4 years they have personally lived through in the Democrat Biden/Harris Administration.
     
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    wow. You don't understand what this process is really about at all. It does not matter whether Trump runs or not, because what he did matters, and what his minions did matters, and how they all tried to steal the election from Biden with false electors and create legal diversions and bully and coerce elected and appointed state elections officials, because we need to stop them from stealing the election away even if DeSantis runs instead. We need to stop this **** and we need to put these people behind bars so that they don't do this even in 2022 midterms.

    Don't focus so much on Trump's guilt. We need to prosecute any lying and cheating scum even if Trump is as clean as snow of an actual crime.

    As for Congress, once they send what they know to the DOJ, then they need to write some tougher election laws that protect systems we need, to run a fair presidential election from now on and have some serious penalties in place.
     
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    the sad thing is, the hearings have shown Trump for who he is, but many on the right don't care
     
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    Or could it be that these hearings are a farce and people see right thru it?
     
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    Clinton left office with great approval despite being impeached (even though he was guilty)?
     
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    Uh, sure. It wasn't the left who tried to use the Justice Department to overthrow an election so a wannabee autocrat could do a Putin and stay in power indefinitely.
    It wasn't the left who attacked the capitol police and hit some of them with fire extinguishers because they were fired up by a loser who couldn't admit he was a loser.

    It wasn't the left who went to election workers homes and threatened them with death.

    It was Trumps MAGA mob responsible for all that. Supported by Putin and other autocrats.
     
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    Trump.isnt filthy. He's corrupt and narcissistic and places himself and his need for power and control way above that of democracy and the Constitution he swore an oath to protect.

    Lets talk about 'feelings'. The witnesses for the Jan 6 hearings are mostly conservative Republicans and Trump administration insiders. They're not discussing feelings. They're describing under threat of perjury what actually happened. If they lie they go to prison. Why would anyone not believe them?
     
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    No. Everyone I know who's watched it is pretty disgusted at Trumps attempt to hold onto power at all costs. Maybe that's because they care about democracy and freedom and don't want the US to turn into something like Russia.
     
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    Literally never happened. Your misrepresentation is not my fault.
     
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    Projection, everything you claim to hate about Trump the left is actually guilty of. We have never been closer to authoritarianism than under democrat rule. As far as witnesses go, they aren’t giving any evidence. They are giving opinion. If you wish to take hyper partisan opinions at face value that’s your shortcoming. As of yet there is no real evidence.
     
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    guilty of lying bout an affair under oath, let's ask Trump about his affairs under oath
     
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    Who's projecting?
    False, never before in our history has a President used the full force and power of his office to subvert an election, he lost, to stay in power.
    IF, you had watched the hearings, you would know that just not true. My first thought was, "they've gone to great lengths to use bipartisan witnesses", but that's not true. They are using the BEST witnesses available and those witnesses happen to be tRaitor tRump insiders people that worked for him, people that were "IN THE ROOM WHEN IT HAPPENED". It's not "opinion" they are giving they are giving witness to what the saw and heard. And, "as of yet" and from the beginning these REPUBLICAN INSIDER WITNESSES have given damning evidence of the length of corruption tRaitor tRump went to, the people he involved, the people he did his best (as only a president can) to ruin. For the sole goal of staying in office AFTER an election he KNEW he LOST.
     
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    I was clear who was projecting, your inability to see or underhand it is it my fault. Never before in our history had a president done that, including now. I watched the hearings and I am fully aware no evidence was presented, just testimony of people whom are hyper partisan and giving their own opinions of what they emotionally believe his intentions were by motive assigning. They all believe they can read minds lol.

    Nothing new was brought to the table, nothing incriminating at all. No person could reasonably believe there was anything or anyone bipartisan here. Just political theatre and nothing burgers describing what was ultimately a fiery but mostly peaceful protest of no consequence.

    the traitorous dems know this so they try to subvert democracy with witch hunts and lies.
     
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    There is no need to read minds, tRaitor tRump made it perfectly clear what he wanted.
    It was anything but a peaceful protest and there is more than ample evidence that it wasn't
    The only subversion of democracy was by the misadministration of tRaitor tRump.
     
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    It absolutely required them to read minds, and since they can’t we know they are lying. This is an attack on democracy. It is Dems who are the traitors.

    it as absolutely a fiery but mostly peaceful protest of no consequence.

    the only subversion attempt of our democracy was Dems during 2016, and even now as they lie about j6.
     
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    So you've lied about watching the Select Committee Hearings. :roll:



    The only lies about January 6th are coming from tRaitor tRump and his minions of which you appear to be one.
     
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    Incorrect, you simply misrepresent the hearings due to raw emotion. I looked at it logically. I can’t help that you refuse to do the same.
     

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