Poll: Trump Has Higher Job Approval Rating Among U.S. Veterans .....

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  1. MMC

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    Not really I served with a whole lot. But now you not knowing what real men are about. Now.....thats absurd. But then again....one can see how you never grew up around real men to know what they are about.
     
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    Sure I am.....and I made the point about your kind. But you can play like you couldn't figure that out. As really I don't mind when the leftness validates their limitations.
     
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    Veterans and service members are real Americans in my book. It is not surprising that real Americans approve of a real American president.
     
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    As a veteran that's experienced the US military's indoctrination in acceptance of authoritarianism, a necessity for the military that's based upon authoritarian rule, the results are not surprising. Veterans often have to overcome their military indoctrination in becoming politically informed and many don't. No one doubts that Trump is an authoritarian and that would appeal to many veterans that have yet to overcome their military indoctrination to become well rounded politically.

    Of note if Pew does a poll of members of the KKK they're find that over 90% support President Trump. Just because someone supports Trump doesn't indicate that Trump is good president and, in some cases such as the formal support of Trump by the KKK, it merely reflects how bad he is as the president.
     
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    Just as I am sure if Pew polls members of the BLM. They will find they support some Democrat. That has tricked them into believing that they actually stand for something.

    The point was.....they Support him.
     
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    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    The United States was founded upon civil rights and not upon anything remotely military in nature. Those that advocate for civil rights are the "real" Americans and not those that support military authoritarianism by the United States government.

    Of note members of the US military swear the following oath of service:

    The members of the US military do not swear an oath to the President and Donald Trump has demonstrated that he's opposed to compliance with the US Constitution with his executive orders. Donald Trump represents the "domestic" enemy of the US Constitution that veterans have sworn an oath the defend against.
     
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    I'm also a military veteran that opposes the unconstitutional and illegal actions of President Trump and it feels great to be a part of the minority that supports the Constitution and the Rule of Law in the United States.

    Of course we're a part of the overwhelming majority of all Americans that oppose the Trump administration.
     
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    Yes that overwhelming Majority in 5 States, huh? I'm also a Veteran that supports the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

    And stand ready for when the leftness is declared as a domestic enemy. Even if they have a majority. Just means more to kill and good times.
     
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    The members of BLM don't have any choice. They can support Democrats that appoint an Attorney General like Eric Holder that was openly supportive of civil rights or they can support Republicans that appoint an Attorney General like Jeff Sessions that's openly opposed to civil rights. It's not about being "tricked" into believing but instead it's a matter of cold, hard facts.

    Today Republicans oppose civil rights for minorities and they've taken that position since the 1980's when the social conservative (racists) of the Democratic Party abandoned the Democrats and became Republicans.

    BTW - The Pew research also addressed the demographics of the veterans.

    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/05/26/u-s-veterans-are-generally-supportive-of-trump/

    Fit's right into the often stated view of the Republican Party as being the "party of angry white men" because "veterans" are merely a thin slice of that group. Even then almost half of all veterans disapprove of Donald Trump.
     
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    Sessions isn't opposed to civil rights. Seems you were led to believe in some fake news. Meh, the Neo Cons started long before the 80's

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/

    So much for those hard facts that you were led to believe.
     
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    you continue your nonsensicalness, trump never served did he
     
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    The approval/disapproval rating of Donald Trump is widespread and not reflective of any specific state.

    Trump Approval rating through end of May 2017.jpg
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

    During Obama's eight years in office I can't recall a single executive order that he issued that was challenged on Constitutional grounds.

    Trump, in less than four months in office, has had three executive orders challenged on Constitutional grounds. Both of his "Muslim" travel bans have been challenged and blocked based upon a violation of the First Amendment (Trump has been unable to establish a threat based upon "national origin) and his 'Sanctuary City" executive order was challenged and partially blocked based upon a violation of the Tenth Amendment (the federal government cannot dictate local law enforcement action related to federal immigration law enforcement).

    His two separate "Muslim" travel bans, blocked because of the First Amendment violation, have been upheld by two different Federal Appeals Courts. His "sanctuary cities" executive order was blocked because it violated the Tenth Amendment.
     
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    those that enlisted post 911 thinking they were protecting us just plain got snookered.
     
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    This was not apparent until the Iraq invasion..........then people stopped to ask why again?
     
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    there was an obvious build up to the war.
     
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    I agree, but lots were not paying attention before and the drumbeat of Patriotism was deafening after.
     
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    Why 63 Million Trump Voters Will Never Leave Trump


    The latest poll numbers are out. Rasmussen (the most accurate poll of the 2016 election) has Trump at 48 percent approval.

    It's important to note that's just about the exact same place he was at when he was elected president- just under half the country supports him. Since we come out to vote in much higher numbers...and we have an electoral edge in Midwest battleground states...48 percent is all Trump needs to win re-election again.

    Keep in mind that's after the two worst weeks in the history of modern presidents. That's after two weeks of the most biased, vicious, negative media coverage in modern history. That's after firing the FBI Director.

    Sixty-three million of us didn‘t vote for Trump because he’s a saint. He’s not. Or a perfect politician. We don’t want him to be like traditional politicians. Trump doesn’t play by D.C. rules. Trump is a wild card- and we like it that way.

    Sorry my desperate, delusional liberal friends. The FBI firing didn’t help your cause. The Russia "fake news" story didn’t help your cause. The false “obstruction of justice” charge didn’t help your cause. I hate to break it to you, but…

    None of the 63 million Trump voters will ever leave Trump. The latest Rasmussen poll proves that. We're not going anywhere.....snip~

    https://townhall.com/columnists/way...-leave-trump-n2331965?utm_campaign=socialflow


    Oh the same Travel ban that BO peep called for but wasn't blocked on it....well that's going to SCOTUS. As is that Sanctuary city block. Then we shall see if he violated any amendments.
     
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    True but not to some people
     
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    Please point out where I said that they DIDNT. I'll wait. Tell you can you may want to delete your moronic post.
     
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    Whatever helps you sleep at night.
     
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    Well first off reported, hopefully this gets you at least a temp ban so we don't have to deal with your conspiracy bullshit.

    Second off. You mentioned Halliburton. What does Halliburton do again? Lmfao. You can't make this kind of pathetic ignorance up. It's hilarious
     
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    Deflection is all you got? noted the non response.
     
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    Hmmm...I guess not granting a hearing on a SCJ nomination is not considered an obstruction move by those on the right. The hypocrisy.
     
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    Only a "real man" can do is insult. And you do it well.
     
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    You are undeserving of the uniform that you wear. "Real man" despise war fare and killing.
     
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