Poll: Vast Majority of Israel’s Arabs ‘Proud’ to be Israeli

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  1. Margot2

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    how many Americans want all the Illegal Aliens expelled? Not the exact comparison, but you get the idea, right?

    Still, these to whom animosity is directed, stay, and are happy. :lol:
     
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    Did you miss the definition?

    While the terms "citizenship" and "nationality" are sometimes used interchangeably, this is for political purposes rather than because there is no difference between the two. The most familiar instance of this is the use of "nationality" to denote state citizenship (as in nationality law).
     
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    yes somewhat. To you an Arab Israeli citizen means the same to Israeli as an illegal alien means to America. I think you tell too much

    You are laughing at the Palestinian Citizens of Israel staying.
     
  6. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Alexa,

    You never fail to discuss the plight of Palestinians, and here’s the tread that does discuss the plight of happy Israeli Palestinians. Rejoice :cheerleader:
     
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    They aren't asked if they feel they are discriminated. All you got is them being asked... do you want to live under "normal" Israeli rule, or under Israeli military rule with a chance of ethnic cleansing? Wooptido
     
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    The vast majority of Israel’s Arabs, 73 percent, feel a sense of belonging in the Jewish state and 60 percent are proud to be Israelis, according to a new poll commissioned by the Israel Hayom daily and conducted by the New Wave Research Institute.

    Try again
     
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    Well you want to show a thread about the Palestinians being proud to be Israelis but the reality is the Israelis want to expel their Arab Citizens.

    On top of that having discovered Israelis wants to expel her Arab citizens you compared Arab Citizens to American illegal aliens. You supported the idea to expel them. What exactly are you celebrating.
     
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    You put in red....
    Their widely held desire, expressed by 82 percent, is not to live under Palestinian rule, while 14 percent say they would want it.

    And that is exactly what I say it is. They are being asked... do you live under military Israeli rule where you get ethnic cleansed or indiscriminately killed, or live under Israeli rule where that doesn't happen. Good for you to ignore it all so you can pretend that it aint so.
     
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    TBH I did not trust this poll as the sort of thing I have read before is more like this from last year.
    so I did a check to see if there seemed to be anyone else reporting this poll. There was so I left it for a while but it niggled me so I decided to go back and see who commissioned it and who produced it. I discovered it was commissioned by a free paper distributed in Israel which I have heard is very effective in creating the opinions of Israelis. I could find nothing on the people who did the research except from them themselves...so I thought check for something else. I decided to check out the Israel Democracy Institute as I have seen work from them before which seems legit. They have a report from this year which begins with a surprisingly positive introduction

    https://en.idi.org.il/media/9593/jews-and-arabs-a-conditional-partnership-en.pdf

    Here are some of the things it finds - roughly quoted
    https://en.idi.org.il/media/9593/jews-and-arabs-a-conditional-partnership-en.pdf

    In addition a strong majority of both Jews and Arabs have a positive view of each other when working together. I think this was the area where there was the most positivity on both sides and 64% of Jews and 90% of Arabs believe that the state could introduce a plan to remove disparities between Jewish and Arab citizenship.

    There is more at the link. I think it is interesting and does give you an idea where strengths and weaknesses are.
     
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    Let’s try again, without putting anything in red:

    The vast majority of Israel’s Arabs, 73 percent, feel a sense of belonging in the Jewish state and 60 percent are proud to be Israelis...

    Can you believe it, 73% of Israeli Arabs belong... I’m happy for them :applause:
     
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    Well that clearly is not true. 67% of Arabs are against Israel being defined as a Jewish State something which Jews feel so strongly about that 58% of them would like those Israeli citizens to no longer have the right to vote in elections. You are very wrong about Arabs feeling happy living in a state that claims to be a Jewish State - for obvious reasons that that makes them second class citizens and the fact that 58% of Jews would like to take away their vote because they feel like that illustrates that that already is the situation.
     
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    You put it in red in the OP. Hence I respond. Seems obvious Palestinians rather not want to live under military rule where they can be ethnic cleansed or bombed indiscriminately.
    Says nothing if they feel discriminated again and again. It also says nothing about how they feel about the "homeland of the Jew" phrase.
     
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    So... it "says nothing about how they feel about the "homeland of the Jew"? Of course it does - they feel very good about it :applause:

    "The vast majority of Israel’s Arabs, 73 percent, feel a sense of belonging in the Jewish state and 60 percent are proud to be Israelis"
     
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    But of course it is clearly true - The vast majority of Israel’s Arabs, 73 percent, feel a sense of belonging in the Jewish state and 60 percent are proud to be Israelis.

    Notice, I headlined "Israel's" in red, which you have omitted. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Majority of Israeli Arabs clearly feel at home in Israel and proud to be Israelis. The rest of Palestinians are dying to get there.
     
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    The Israeli state is what it is, and sorry, I suppose I do not take you as a spokesman for the "Arabs in the region". Israel is an apartheid state fomenting unrest, along with the US, in the region.
     
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    Oh they're dying all right. That’s the plan. Occupation, genocide, cleansing; all very american ways to take over a land mass.
     
  19. Dutch

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    What land mass? All of 0.15% of the region, which Israel agreed to split with Palestinians from get-go and Palestinians refused? That LAND MASS?
     
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    You left out america pard. Cute.
     
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    What America? This tread is about Israel.
     
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    This tread? Who needs this tread, Jared brought peace to the middle east.
     
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    Who needs this tread? WHF are you doing in this tread, lad? Telling me who needs this tread? Cute.
     
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    Um, your words pard:

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    You left out america pard. Cute.
    What America? This tread is about Israel.
     
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    They made it a great place to live. Arab Israelis have a good life.
     
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