Poor people having too many children they can't afford

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  1. TheAngryLiberal

    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    It erks me to see all these poor people bitching about income disparity with their hands held out demanding Freebies from people who have made good choices in their lives and have decided to live within their budgetary means. If you are from the Ghetto and struggling to get by, because you're poor, what the HELL! sense does it make to bring Kids into this world and subject them to a world of poverty and poor education. Maybe it's time to limit people on the amount of children they can have, by what their economic income is, by forcing men and women to have surgery after they've met their limit. It's SO! Damn stupid to expect other people to support your unrealistically large family, because you're Dumb! and can't control your sexual urges or use protection to prevent all these pregnancies. I'd be more open to having some of my income go to poor people, IF! they are made to make the right choices with the money ME and my fellow tax payers give them, but if they don't want to make proper choices, FINE! sit in the ghetto and stay poor for the rest of your miserable lives.

    https://www.debate.org/opinions/sho...on-the-number-of-children-one-person-can-have

    http://theconversation.com/new-data-paint-an-unpleasant-picture-of-poverty-in-the-us-101069
     
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    Clearly the solution is to allow another million plus 20 year olds per year with 6th grade educations to illegally enter the country.
     
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    TheAngryLiberal Banned

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    Yeah! that's a real good idea isn't it. Typically, poor people are dumber than rich people and are not very good role models for their Children, so they just create more Dumb people who make more bad life choices and go on to live a life of crime and the cycle goes on and on and on. Too bad too many of these bleeding heart idiots can't have the vision to recognize that the United States is going to resemble more of a 3rd world country then an economic world power in the not too distant future if this continues.
     
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    The government, specifically the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex, subsidizes people who shouldn't be reproducing more to reproduce more out of pure self-interest. More consumption pods + more redistribution = more profit and power for the Complex. If that comports with one's vision of a desirable state of affairs, vote for the status quo to continue.
     
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    I generally agree that we shouldn't support lazy people ... unfortunately, they may and do have kids - and cutting off the kids from programs to help feed them and educate them is a really, really stupid suggestion. It creates generational poverty and the next generation of desperate, uneducated victims of having the bad luck of not being able to choose their parents.

    No easy solution here. There is a certain price to pay for living among fellow human beings ... they all aren't perfect.
     
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    Thank goodness for Planned Parenthood in poor neighborhoods or there'd be even more !!!!! :)
     
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    We have THE LOWEST BIRTH RATE WRE HAVE EVER HAD!!!!!We don't have nearly enough children being born!!!!
     
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    Idiocracy is on it's way..
    Had a neighbor, dumber than a box of rocks, but she figured out that the government would pay her money for each kid she had.
    Having been raised on a ranch, one thing of which I am certain; if you want more of something, feed it well.
     
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    Well! the United States population continues to grow and the idea of having open borders and allowing Millions more poor and uneducated people to bring their poor and uneducated children here to become parasites on the American tax payers is NOT! going to create a bright future for America. There will come a point of no return where it's too late to repair. Look at all these countries that have too many people for the resources to support, you'll have photos of starving children with flys all over their faces, but no America to help, because they'll be here in the good ol USA.
     
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    I would be supportive of something requiring women receiving welfare to also have a Norplant (birth control) implanted for as long as they're receiving welfare. Or something to pay for vasectomies for men with children receiving welfare. But I'm assuming in less than ten posts some extreme leftist is going to start howling "eugenics!!!!!" and so these conversations never go far, and I'm sure our politicians are scared shitless to touch the topic.
     
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    We have way more people over 60 than we have those under 18.We need children desperately!!!
     
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    I really don't think you've been paying attention then. What has, in fact, created structural poverty are the very programs that you currently are advocating to survive. Placing artificial safety nets against the burdens of gratuitous children just reinforces the poverty of those who produce them, as well as those effects on their kids. And importing more and more of them to consume from the liberal governmental programs isn't the answer to poverty in any way. Sometimes, struggle does make us better, but when government artificially aids and abets, well, the struggle never happens, and complacency and dependency become norms that folks are willing to accept. And, the kids suffer. Because the parents never have to actually take accountability for their selfish behavior.
     
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    A message from our national teachers/jailers/lawyers unions of America......
     
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    ...and if you take away subsidies for food and shelter the KIDS suffer...….but then, those ARE BORN kids so who cares, right????
     
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    Why don't you people support Family Planning? Because you want millions more poor people filling our
    vast prison system, and you need bullet stoppers for the Army.
     
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    Don't make an argument that hasn't been made here. Your little strawman is your own creature. Keep it to yourself. Start your own thread to derail.
     
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    Probably not. But then, Eugenics is their officially approved breeding strategy.. They are literally breeding their own long term success for programs and entitlements that support their base. It's so transparent. Since I've already been attacked on the thread, I would point out it happened far faster because this is vastly more important to the progressive/liberal left than they will ever admit to. Planned Parenthood is the tool being used to create the very breeding outcomes they expect and project for. Noticing that always gets the rest of us in trouble....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    ...and if you take away subsidies for food and shelter the KIDS suffer...….but then, those ARE BORN kids so who cares, right????


    :) Couldn't address/refute the post so had to call it a "strawman"...:)
     
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    You should consider changing your name to TheAngryConservative.
     
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    Planned Parenthood contributes to more "breeding" ?? :) :roll::roflol:
     
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    I'd recommend wearing a poncho.
     
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    To be clear, your comment wasn't something that I had argued. I know, you wanted to start a food fight anyway, so, as you mentioned previously, you "added" some color commentary that hadn't been argued. And now, because I identified your little hookwinker, you're pssed because I ignored you. Why engage you at all? Why would you advocate a potential that only creates pain and suffering from those that you'd enforce dependency of them? You don't seem to be that worried about that part do you? So, you're position is what? Abort them first? But, if you did, however will your syndicate of education/prison/lawyers get theirs? Hmmm... didn't think about that one, did you?

    So, just to be clear here, you're solution is aborting them before they become problems.. right? :roflol:
     
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    Truly.
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    Rantings of a completelly delusional idiot > Your posts. Classic!:roll:

    K, now, prove that out with links and documentation now?

    Nevermind, we know you're fantasizing your fears, out loud to impress your "peers"; it's just too bad even that's not original, just some garbage spoon fed to you by your delusional buddies at Fox "News".
     
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    Well! I should actually change it to the Angry Independent, because I'm fed up with both parties because of the extreme right and left taking over. As a strong middle class person, I see the Liberals wanting to give more and more of my income to lazy drug addicts and illegal Aliens and on the Right they want to give Tax breaks that benefit the Richest Americans and allow them to keep a higher percentage of their income, while the middle class pays. The Dems and the Pubs can't come together on anything, but the Dems are the ones making the most crazy noise right now, which makes me want to support President Trump more and more and hope for his re-election.
     
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