Pope Declares Death Penalty Unacceptable in All Cases

Looks like Pope Francis has acknowledged that people who no longer pose a threat to the general public should not be murdered by their governments. He states that he believes that American Catholics will likely have trouble accepting this decision. Do you believe Catholics will fall in line with this doctrine, and will that help lead to an America that doesn’t perform state sanctioned murders? I certainly hope so.

 

The commandment has always read,"Thou shalt not kill".

 

Seems pretty clear when you put it like that. Makes you wonder why there’s anything to discuss really.

 

The commie pope is wrong as usual

 

Whachu talkin' 'bout? Commies love killing people.

 

The RCC has been against the death penalty for a very long time - how is this new?

And, what do you think about the RCC position on abortion and same-sex marriage?

 

Exodus 21:12
“Anyone who strikes a person with a fatal blow is to be put to death.

Some people take this stuff seriously. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the new testament prohibiting the death penalty, either.

 

where not killing them were sending them to land were they can be free from prision life

 

I think they are expected by the church to follow doctrine; a great majority of them will fall in line with this doctrine.

 

isnt he going against traditonal views of the church
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_in_the_Papal_States

 

Oh stop it. The command is not referring to all killing. Adulterers were to be taken outside the city gates and Stoned. God commanded mass genocide - including the slaughter of women, children and babies.

 

So it’s a commie ideal not to cage and then murder your citizens? Man, sign me up!

I guess sometimes the Pope just has to remind people of what’s right.
The RCC isn’t perfect by any means. Always room to grow I suppose. At the very least they state that no on should be descriminated against for sexual orientation. I think that’ll eventually lead to acceptance of same-sex marriage.

Exodus is part of the Old Testament. Jesus died on the cross to free us from the old covenant with God, so it really shouldn’t hold much weight today. Unless maybe Jesus died on the cross in vain? I guess that’s possible.

Oh, you.

Here’s hoping.

That’s all Old Testament covenant stuff. Jesus saved us from those rules when he died on the cross. Or maybe he died in vain? What would you consider a worthy sacrifice if not the Son of God?

 

If only Jesus had died on the cross to free us from young earth creationism as well, then.

 

Dude .. you were the one that brought up "thou shalt not kill". Last time I checked that "command" came out during the OT time period.

The point being that your claim that "thou shalt not kill" referred to all killing is not correct.

 

I guess even God couldn’t have seen that one gaining any ground. Maybe not so all knowing. Would that be mostly knowing?

Check again, brother, that was a different poster.
Maybe God should have been more specific? Like “Thou shalt not kill, unless that mothaf***a really deserves it.”

 

yep Sodom and Gomorrah was one of the examples
and the great flood

 

You are right ... my bad.

I would say the Golden Rule sums it up ... Don't do to others what you don't want done to you / Treat others as you would be treated.

The God of the OT did not follow this rule - but Jesus sure liked it ! Jesus based his whole ministry on that rule for the most part.

Jesus did not care much for OT Law and violated it often. The God of Jesus was clearly a different God than YHWH .. who was a different God from El Shaddai (God of Abraham) .. now recognized as El (Enlil - the most high God - head of the Israelite Pantheon).

 

Well thankfully Jesus died on the cross to save us from our old covenant with God. Shouldn’t be anymore large scale temper tantrums from the big guy after that. Thank God, amiright?

“An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.”
“Judge not lest ye be judged.”
I wouldn’t want to pass a judgement of death on anyone. Would hate for that to be turned around on me one day. Never know where life might take you, ya know?

I have to admit I’m not enough of a Bible scholar to offer anything intelligent on the rest of your post.

 

Nope. Direct translation to English from Ancient Hebrew reads (Exodus 20: )"13 `Thou dost not murder." (Youngs Literal Translation)

Specifically, the Ancient Hebrew word used is ' רצח ' which translates literally as 'murder'.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/רצח

 

jesus believed in the death penalty too because he obey roman law

 

Does that change the message any?

There’s a difference between “Follow the law of the land.” and “The law of the land is just.” Can you quote anywhere in the Bible where Jesus advocates for the death penalty?

 

he didnt need to say it ,he when to the cross smilling all the way

 

john the baptist didnt look so happy thou with those feminist doing hearlds dirty work

 

First off, Jesus was not happy to die on the cross. He begged his father in the Garden of Gethsemane for there to be some other way. He prayed to his Father for three hours. That sound like someone who was jumping for the chance to be murdered?
Second, are you saying that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ dying on the cross to deliver us from the covenant of the Old Testament is somehow comparable to killing people who we can, as an advanced society, contain indefinitely in a humain and dignified way? Sounds like we just want to kill someone back because our vengeful lizard brains tell us it’ll make us feel better. Studies have found people who lose loved ones to violence seldom feel any true closure from the execution of the perpetrator. So what is the point?

He looks down right perturbed.

 

That's right. The treacherous Pope loves kissing migrant ass and didn't hesitate to trow Europe to the wolves. And now he want to ban the death penalty, so the savages may feel even more unleashed and powerful.
Talking about commie.