Popular vote is just a way to steal every election for theDemocrats.

All these Liberal leaders are crying to get rid of the Electoral College. Complaining they got about 2.5 million more votes and still lost. Said it isn't right and of course it's racist. With them, what isn't racist? Was our forefathers wrong, are Liberals just poor losers? Our forefathers knew the states are different sizes and that the population in them would be vastly different. They wanted to make sure that each state would have a say in who gets elected and that 3 or 4 b...ig populated states would not dominate all the elections. Fore instance, although the Democrats got under three million more votes, L.A County alone has more than 10 million people. California alone contains more people than 21 of the least less populated states. It's easy to see, if you go by popular vote, the Democrats would only have to carry California, NY and one or two more and be able to control every election. How fair would that be to the rest of the country? I don't think they would have ever been able to create a country made up of all the states if they knew their vote would never count and they would have to be at the mercy of a few big states. Lets see how the rest of the country voted by counties.

The Latest Numbers on the Election: Popular Vote, Counties Won
www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2193047-latest-numbers-on-the-election/
Dec 1, 2016 - While Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by at least 2.5 million votes, Trump won more than 2700 out of 3143 counties across the United ...
That's only 443 counties for Hillary. 2,700 for Trump. This shows a more accrete feeling of the rest of the nation.

 

Ya think!
Add to that the democrats push for illegal aliens to vote in city elections, extended early voting, open borders, encourage ballot harvesting, last but not least this twit,

 

With the census determining how many Congressman a state gets, it has to add about 15 Congressmen to the count with all these illegals coming in.

 

So you're saying that the Republicans can't build a coalition of enough people to win a popular vote?
Nixon did it. Reagan did it. Bush I did it.
Have you ever stopped to think that maybe Republicans just aren't presenting a convincing narrative? I guess if you need to play the victim - blame someone else for your failure - then the Republican Party is your home.

 

So when Trump thought we should get rid of the electoral vote, did he do so not understanding the numbers you've provided? Or did he think that it was rigged against him?

 

why do you feel that wide open, unpopulated empty space should determine who the president is, instead of actual American voters?

 

Look who is playing victim? In over 250 years it has worked out well for the country and because the Democrats lost a couple lately, they want to change everything. They are screaming victim, not the Republicans.

 

And Trump was screaming how unfair the Electoral College was ... right up until he had to rely on it to win.
But this particular thread OP was decrying how the Republicans could never win if they had to rely on just the popular vote.
I was pointing out that they had before - so maybe it was the messenger they nominated rather than the system.

 

I easily explained it. If our forefathers had set it up as a popular vote, we wouldn't have a united states. Who would want to join if they knew they would never have a voice in who won, who makes the laws? No power in Washington was one of the reasons for the Civil War. It wasn't all about slavery.

 

Oh, you mean the Founding Father were willing to COMPROMISE in order to save the union? Now there's a novel concept for Trump FanBoys.

 

but they would have a voice in who won. One vote, one voice. The EC weights smaller state votes more than larger states, which is ridiculous, and has led to the disaster that is trump. There should never be an instance where a president is elected, against the will of the American people. The very notion is un-American.

 

How is winning the majority of the vote stealing the election? If you really want the states to have a say, then we should just change our system to one where candidates get the number of electoral votes proportional to the percent of the population won. This system can give small states more votes like the current one does.

 

All I have to say is our forefathers was much smarter than many are today. They saw the big problem with the popular vote and stayed away from it and it's done what they hoped it would do, give everyone a voice. Not just the big guys on the block. Look, your trying everything in your power to win. Flood the country with illegals and then say you want them to vote. Want to drop the age to 16 and then fill their head with liberalism. Get ex convicts to vote, be against voter ID. Etc.,etc. Now you also want to change the way we vote to favor you.

 

Yeah, and they didn't have to compromise with Socialists or Communists either. Now that is novel like that even todays Leftists should have the ability to understand.

 

I believe the Electoral College has a function simply Because, there is no immigration clause in our federal Constitution.

 

I'm not a Democrat, and I'm not advocating getting rid of the Electoral College. I'm just saying it wouldn't be a big deal if Republicans could get back to nominating good people who can swing the popular vote as well as the Electors ... but if you want to wallow in self-pity, so be it.

 

To build a coalition, you don't have to compromise with the far left or far right - you just have to get the majority of the people in the middle. That's a concept that seems to escape the Trump FanBoys.

 

Who's saying they want illegals to vote in federal elections?

 

Our forefathers gave the vote to land-owning white males. Obviously, things have changed a bit since then. In more recent times more people are moving to the cities form the rural areas. Should they give up some of their vote and voice in the government just because they moved away from home?

Also, even if the Electoral College is eliminated, the "lower population " states have a disproportionate representation in the Senate which should provide sufficient protection for their interests.

 

I'm NOT for eliminating the EC, however...how is a popular vote "stealing an election"?

 

What the lefts fanboys of the left didn't get.....was the Founding Fathers didn't have to compromise with Socialists or Communists.

But then again to any leftists today. They think anyone that isn't one of theirs is a Trump Fanboy. But then no one ever said they were the brightest bulbs in the box.

 

It is all about Sovereignty. By removing the EC they would be decreasing the sovereign right of the states to each have a equal say in who is President. Our system was never meant to be a direct Democracy. Now each state is a democracy where your vote is equal to each other state citizens. This is a federation of states not a federation of individual citizens.

 

Just as you think anyone who isn't one of yours is a Socialist or Communist. Both sides are utter fools when it comes to sweeping generalizations.

 

Popular vote still isn't "stealing".