Portland protests Aug. 17: What you need to know

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And Kudo's to the bike mounted patriot in the blue and green.

 

Oh really? Where did you pull that out of? Sure wasn't in my post.

I'd say zero conservatives since conservative isn't considered Right wing extremist. But let's go with your view that everyone in the RW are grouped together and let's say your fantasy that the RW is responsible for every school, mall, and church shooting, it is still a fraction of the murder and mayhem caused by Lefties on a daily basis in your run of the mill big city.

I can't help it that Lefties have gone full commie. Notice I don't use the terms liberal or progressive.

 

Whoa, snap! I was taught history by a disciple of William Appleman Williams, the original 'revisionist', and learned economics from a near-Marxist. I also learned history from Donald Kagan and Political Science from Walter Berns. Left and Right ... you could go to the student union building and see a table set up by the Young Socialists and another by the Young Conservatives. No one would have dreamed -- I think it would have been literally almost inconceivable -- of physically attacking a speaker for their political views. The closest we came to violence was during the Cuban missile crisis when we had an anti-war rally on the steps of the student union building, and a distinguished speaker (Nobel Prize winner in physics) was briefly pelted with pebbles by some disgusting fraternity boys. But emotions were running very high then because it looked like we might be going into a thermonuclear war.

But things are changing fast in America. On the "Friendly Atheist" forum -- one of those words is not descriptive -- we're having a big argument about patriotism, saluting the flag, saying the pledge of allegiance. (When I say 'we' I mean me on the one side and fifty screaming liberals -- and five reasonable ones -- on the other.) I take these people to be not unrepresentative of the opinion of young liberals today .... and it's very depressing. They have grown up in Fortress America, and think you don't need guards on the walls, or the guards can be persuaded to lay down their lives if you pay them enough, or make a rational argument to them about why they should do so. They have absolutely no idea of how ordinary people think.

The decay of the Republic is very advanced. I hope we can escape in time.

 

Why not give them a permit? Let them hold their rally. If AntiFa did not show up, no one would even know it occurred.
It would be like the sound of a tree falling in the middle of the forest with no one to hear it.

 

If the looniest of the left, including ANTIFA, have their way, we will no longer have a Republic but will have become a leftist totalitarian system that will tell us how we must live our lives, what of the resources we have and earn we will be able to keep and/or use, what we will be allowed to legally read and learn, what we are allowed to think, believe, speak, profess without retaliation or punishment. Those with an ear to hear should be paying close attention to those Democrats running for President and observe what happens to those who dare stray from the politically correct universe they demand.

There is currently a huge bruhaha over Sean Spicer participating in "Dancing with the Stars." They think that should not be allowed because he is not one of them. He is one of those they brand the enemy who they intend be allowed no peace or any rights that 'normal' citizens take for granted. Give them enough power and people like him will be in prison or exterminated. We are headed that way.

And whatever you think of their religion, philosophy, or how they go about things--and I am not advocating them at all, but only pointing out the truth of it--it is groups like Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer, you, me, and others who love America and value liberty who are all that is standing in their way. If we give in, give up, those who hate America and would deny us liberty will win.

 

I agree completely. It's astonishing the hatred, the disregard for truth. I'm practically a liberal, as @Mac7 keeps pointing out, I try hard not to be snarky or insulting, but if I go on a liberal forum and post something ... it's like Beelzebub materializing in the middle of a Christian congregation.

Anyway, FoxFyre, this will not be reversed. We can fight against it, but we're like a person caught in a 'rip tide' carrying them out to sea ... when you realize you're in that situation, you don't try to swim towards the beach, because although you will slow down your doom for a few minutes, you won't prevent it. You've got to swim parallel to the beach, and get out of the current that's carrying you out altogether. It's heartbreaking to think of this wonderful nation coming apart but either we separate out the healthy tissue, or the whole thing 'comes apart' by every cell rotting away. By the time we can see the exact lineaments of the final disintegration, it will be too late to go.

We've got to start preparing now.

 

Here's more:

 

They might be right, but I wish they had posted the actual video. I am always skeptical when statements are plucked out of context. Disclaimer: being skeptical is not the same things as denying.

 

Here's more:

 

Yes, and sensible decisions are coming down:

THE FIRST AMENDMENT LIVES: Religious Freedom Win for Artists Who Refuse to Create Same-Sex Wedding Videos.

It is truly a fine time to be an American!

On Friday, the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that a lower court had wrongly ruled on case involving free speech and religious freedom. Minnesota filmmakers Carl and Angel Larsen, owners of Telescope Media Group, gladly serve all people but desire to make wedding videos that only include opposite-sex couples. Minnesota's Department of Human Rights ruled that this would constitute discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. Penalties for violating the law include a civil penalty, triple compensatory damages, punitive damages of up to $25,000, a criminal penalty of up to $1,000, and up to 90 days in jail.

That's right, they would actually JAIL YOU for not shooting their video.

But, Court imposed sanity!

 

Felony Charges for Antifa Terrorists

 

Here's more:

 

Andy Ngo: Antifa Believes It Is Pushing America Towards Civil War
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019...eves-it-is-pushing-america-towards-civil-war/

I think this journalist makes several good points about antifa.

 

Good points?

Ngo is an utterly ridiculous (Non-Serious) RW Tinfoil Hat LOON.

And, the "points" that he makes about "Antifa" are beyond ludicrous (and completely unworthy of being taken seriously).

Andy Ngo?

 

He was assaulted by Antifa, and knows how communist they are.

 

Could you give us a single example that demonstrates your case?

 

Attempted stabbing? LOL. Not even close. Pointing to something way out of focus that looked pointy as a shank is ridiculous, and there wasn't anything remotely looking like a stabbing motion.

I did see a bunch of fascists mingling in the crowd and one particular fascist causing fear in a young woman by blocking her in.

 

Yeah looks like an attempted stabbing to me. Anyone can watch the video to see how antifa conducts itself.

 

Yes. Have you read The Republican Constitution by Randy Barnett? This project to add Constitutionalist Libertarians to the Federal Bench began in the early 80's and is finally bearing fruit. It's a good read if you find that sort of thing interesting. I just finished The Lost Declaration of Independence by Mike Lee, also a good read. Both books describe parts of the Constitution as "lost" while noting that so long as the text hasn't been changed, all it takes is for a majority of a high court to find it and what was lost is suddenly found.

It's approaches miraculous that it's Trump, rather than Hillary, filling the Judiciary.

 

WHEN DEMOCRAT OPERATIVES WITH BYLINES LIE TO HARM THEIR OPPOSITION:

The Media Claimed Andy Ngo Was Complicit in a Far-Right Attack on Antifa. But the Video Doesn’t Support That.

 

They lie so frequently.

 

Seems to me that the disintegration comes from the poison that is being absorbed, drunk, incorporated into the body politic. The way to reverse it is by replacing the poison with the good stuff. And whatever you think of him personally, the good stuff is being promoted mostly by President Trump and his supporters, i.e. MAGA that results in:

--Policies that allow a strong, vital, sustainable economy with choices, opportunity, options, and liberty to replace what was stagnant, regressive, and producing decline.

--Promoting a full exchange of ideas and concepts and not attacking or socioeconomically punishing people for speaking or promoting 'wrong' ideas and concepts.

--Allowing people to be who and what they are so long as they allow others to be who and what they are.

--Promoting appreciation for our nation and the flag and national anthem that represent it, and a willingness to defend and protect it from those who would exploit, overrun, harm, conquer, or change it into something it was never intended to be.

It was championing that MAGA vs those who oppose it that ultimately was what the Portland protests were all about.

 

It's necessary, but very difficult to separate the man's rhetoric, from his policies.
Of course, this is what you've got to do with all politicians but it's usually the opposite: the rhetoric is bland, or reassuring, and it's the policies you've got to pay attention to, and they're often bi-partisan and status quo reinforcing. But with Trump, you've got to ignore the slightly crazy rhetoric and impulsive eructations, and pay attention to what he does. I am holding my breath re. foreign policy -- I think he made a grave mistake with Iran and a minor one with Cuba (except for the Cuban people, for whom it causes more unnecessary suffering and is counter-productive if you want regime alteration there), his threats to Veneuzuela just bolster the regime -- but Hillary the Hawk might have done some of that, and perhaps far worse with Russia and China; I can't figure out what he's doing re. North Korea but at least there is no war;

Domestically he has not done much harm, so far as I can see, but his domestic program is very far from what I think a vigorous conservative government should do to attack our internal problems.

But ... politics is usually a choice of evils. I wanted -- reluctantly -- Hillary to win last time, but given the move of the Democrats to the Left -- something I think is inevitable in the long run -- I suspect next year I'll be over working for the whole Republican ticket, unless by a Divine Intervention we get Major Gabbard or Jim Webb heading the Democratic ticket. I really like John James, a Republican contender for the nomination for Senate in Michigan, so if he gets it, I'll probably spend my summer vacation working for him there, as I did in 2010 in California and in 2016 in Colorado. My English wife thinks I'm crazy but they're polite people here and so she only voices this opinion occasionally.

 

Actually the rhetoric isn't crazy though if you really listen to what he is saying and how he is saying it. He is the master of satire and the tongue in cheek quip and he doesn't care how badly the dishonorable media and the internet trolls misuse that. I am pretty sure he does it deliberately to goad them into misusing it because those who might be on the fence or considering which side to take will be intellectually honest enough to see that for what it is. And that it isn't the President who gets it wrong or is the crazy one.

I think not only has he not done much, if any, harm domestically, but his policies and initiatives have resulted in a tremendous amount of good. I am seeing people who struggled during the Obama years prospering in their businesses again, or exchanging low paying or part time jobs for good paying permanent ones. I have seen a couple of 'disadvantaged' folk I have worked with get their first jobs ever. And the pride of accomplishment and new self esteem for them has been amazing to watch. I doubt they will ever return to their old lives that nobody should want or condone.

Most of all I am seeing millions rise up to promote pride in country, flag, patriotism, and champion all that has been good in America and pushing back on those who would tear all that down or destroy anybody who doesn't agree with or think like them.

Again you might not like the players in the Portland protests. But ultimately the Portland protests illustrated the two sides of that coin.

 

In other words, Trump's Presidency has inspired you to relate some personal (hearsay) anecdotes.

Cool.

Anyway, the Portland "Protests" were a big bust for the RW that was expecting much more fodder to feed their need for Faux Outrage.