Postmillennialism: Christendom's Bright Cheerful View Of The Future Of The Human Race.

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    The subject is Christian Eschatology.
    Eschatology is about the future of Humanity.
    There are 4 different major views of Christian Eschatology {listed below}.
    Postmillennialism is the only one of the 4 that predicts a bright cheerful future
    here on this Earth before human history ends.

    So the question is raised:

    What does the future hold for the Christian Church and the Human Race
    here on planet Earth? The answer is the Human Race has a magnificent
    optimistic bright cheerful future.

    The world will eventually become a Christian world. This will require many
    millenniums yet to come as human history rolls forward. This does not
    mean that every single person on Earth will become a Christian, rather
    it means that the human race, as a race, will be saved and the vast
    overwhelming majority of human beings will, in the far off future,
    become Christian.

    The Lord Jesus' Great Commission To His Christian Church is about
    His Church Christianizing the world:

    The Lord Jesus told His disciples at the end of Matthew's gospel chapter
    28 to go and make disciples of all the nations. His disciples needed power
    to accomplish this great task. The Lord Jesus told them what this power
    was. He said "all authority in Heaven and on Earth has been given to me,
    therefore go and make disciples of all nations . . . teaching them to obey
    all that I have commanded you." Matthew 28:18-20

    The Lord Jesus was serious when He gave His Christian Church her Great
    Commission. His Great Commission is a command and not a suggestion.

    Therefore His Great Commission to go and make disciples of all the nations
    will be successfully accomplished before He returns to Earth to end human
    history -- the world will eventually become Christian. "He must reign until
    He has put all his enemies under His feet." 1 Cor. 15:25
    "For He (God) has put everything under His feet." 1 Cor. 15:27

    The Lord Jesus right NOW is reigning as King over this entire world and He is
    gradually incrementally Christianizing the entire world. Again, how long will this
    take? It will take many many millenniums yet to unfold, but He will be victorious.
    We must be patient. This is going to take very long time.

    Meanwhile . .

    Unfortunately there is a lot of Doom and Gloom and Defeatism
    out there inside 21st century Christendom .

    Christendom holds and presents 4 major views of the future
    of the Christian Church and the Human Race.

    These 4 views are:
    (1) Postmillennialism
    (2) Amillennialism
    (3) Premillennialism
    (4) Dispensationalism

    Of the 4 views only Postmillennialism presents an optimistic
    bright cheerful victorious future for the Christian Church and
    the Human Race. The other 3 views are saturated with Doom
    and Gloom and Defeatism for both the Christian Church and
    the Human race.

    This Post is presenting some general thoughts on
    Postmillennialism and Postmillennialism's optimistic view of
    the future.

    Long live Christian optimism.

    Large swaths of the Christian Church today are awash in
    Gloom and Doom and in Defeatism passed off as being
    spiritual, when in fact the Bible teaches that the Christian
    Church will be victorious. I will build my Church, said the
    Lord Jesus, and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it.
    Go and make disciples of all the nations, said the Lord
    Jesus, because I have now been given all authority both
    in Heaven and on Earth.

    It is sad indeed that Amillennialism, Premillennialism, and
    Dispensationalism repudiates the gospel victory theme of
    the Bible in their modern eschatological speculations and
    replaces this victory theme with a defeatist scheme of the
    future of the Christian Church and Human race. This
    paralyzes Christian cultural efforts and eliminates the
    practical significance from the Christian worldview, and
    gives Christians a sinful comfort in lethargy because all
    this Defeatism and Doom and Gloom tends to justify
    social and cultural irresponsibility. "Why polish brass
    on a sinking ship", ask many misinformed Christians.

    Here is an excellent definition of Postmillennialism:

    "Postmillennialism holds that the Lord Jesus Christ established
    His kingdom on earth through His preaching and redemptive
    work in the first century and that He equips His church with the
    gospel, empowers her by the Holy Spirit, and charges her with
    the Great Commission to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism
    expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
    saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
    time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
    righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
    affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
    conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
    to end history with the general resurrection and the final
    Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
    ___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.

    Christianity is slowly Christianizing the world.

    Christianity started small in numbers. There was a time in the 1st century
    at the very beginning of Christianity when the number of Christians in the
    world was less than 12. Today, some 2000 years later, there is some 2.3
    billion Christians in the world. We have a name for this. We call it progress.

    America today has over 1300 Evangelical mega-churches with weekly
    attendance of over 2000. The Roman Catholics have over 3000 churches
    with a weekly attendance of over 2000. This is Christian progress in the world.

    Christianity is growing like wildfire in the Global South for example in Africa.
    There is a huge Christian Church in China. House Church.
    .Christianity is huge in South Korea and in South America and Central America.
    The American Christian Church is still a vibrant force in the World. All this is
    Christian progress in the world.

    ■ The Lord Jesus "shall have dominion from sea to sea" Psalm 72:8
    ■ "The whole Earth will be filled with His glory." Psalm 72:19
    ■ "All the nations will call Him blessed." Psalm 72:17
    ■ The Lord Jesus really meant it, when He commanded His Christian
    Church to "go and make disciples of all the nations." Matthew 28:19

    "As of the year 2015, Christianity has more than 2.3 billion adherents,
    out of about 7.5 billion people. The faith represents one-third of the
    world's population and is the largest religion in the world, with the three
    largest groups being the Catholic Church, Protestantism, and
    the Eastern Orthodox Church."__wikipedia

    At the end of human history , , ,
    The Book Of Revelation says that there is a great multitude of the saved
    from every nation, tribe, people and language and they are so numerous
    that no one can count them.

    "After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one
    could count from every nation, tribe, people, and language, standing
    before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white
    robes . . .and they cried out . . . Salvation belongs to our God who sits
    on the throne and to the Lamb." Revelation 7:9-10

    JAG

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    Here is an excellent definition of Postmillennialism:

    "Postmillennialism holds that the Lord Jesus Christ established
    His kingdom on earth through His preaching and redemptive
    work in the first century and that He equips His church with the
    gospel, empowers her by the Holy Spirit, and charges her with
    the Great Commission to disciple all nations. Postmillennialism
    expects that eventually the vast majority of men living will be
    saved. Increasing gospel success will gradually produce a
    time in history prior to Christ's return in which faith,
    righteousness, peace, and prosperity will prevail in the
    affairs of men and nations. After an extensive era of such
    conditions the Lord will return visibly, bodily, and gloriously,
    to end history with the general resurrection and the final
    Judgment after which the eternal order follows."
    ___ Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry.

    Postmillennialism.
    Here below is a list of distinguished Postmillennialists:
    Origen
    Eusebius
    Athanasius
    Augustine
    Daniel Whitby
    Isaac Watts
    The Wesley Brothers
    Jonathan Edwards
    William Carey
    Robert Haldane
    Archibald Alexander
    A.A. Hodge
    Charles Hodge
    Albert Barnes
    David Brown
    Patrick Fairbairn
    Richard C. Trench
    J.A. Alexander
    J.H. Thornwell
    Robert L. Dabney
    William G.T. Shedd
    Augustus H. Strong
    H.C.G. Moule
    B.B. Warfield
    O.T. Allis
    J. Gresham Machen
    John Murray
    Loraine Boettner
    J. Marcellus Kik
    Greg L. Bahnsen
    David Chilton
    Rousas J. Rushdoony
    _____________

    Contemporary Postmillennialist Writers:
    Reuben Alvarado
    Curtis Crenshaw
    John Jefferson Davis
    Gary DeMar
    J. Ligon Duncan lll
    John R. deWitt
    Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
    George Grant
    Grover E. Gunn
    Stephen J. Hayhow
    Erroll Hulse
    Douglas Kelly
    Francis Nigel Lee
    Peter J. Leithart
    Donald Macleod
    Keith A. Mathison
    Iain Murray
    Gary North
    Stephen C. Perks
    Willard Ramsey
    Andrew Sandlin
    Steve Schlissel
    Norman Shepherd
    R.C. Sproul
    Ray R. Sutton
    Kenneth G. Talbot
    Jack Van Deventer
    James West
    Douglas Wilson
    Colin Wright
    Source:
    He Shall Have Dominion
    by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr,
    pages 106-107


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    Who Was The Beast Of the Book Of Revelation?
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    {The following was taken from
    He Shall Have Dominion.
    by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
    It is not a word for word quote but the substance of this below
    is Dr. Gentry's. I typed it in. It is not on the web. Footnote at
    the bottom}
    _________________

    Who Was The Beast Of Revelation?
    The Beast is a well known Christian Eschatological character.
    Premillennialists incorrectly believe that the Beast is to appear
    in the future. This is false. The Beast was a 1st Century character
    that appeared in the 1st Century and will never appear again in
    human history.

    The Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation.

    The Time Of The Beast.
    John clearly expects his prophesied events to take
    place in his day, the 1st Century.

    John writes:
    "The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
    him to show his servants what must soon take place."
    Revelation 1:1

    "Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the
    prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near"
    Revelation 22:10

    "must soon take place"
    "the time is near"

    In light of Revelation's significance to its first-century
    audience, the Beast must be someone relevant to
    that first-century audience.

    "The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave
    him to show his servants what must soon take place.
    He made it known by sending his angel to his servant
    John, who testifies to everything he saw—that is,
    the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.
    Blessed is the one who reads aloud the words of
    this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it
    and take to heart what is written in it, because the
    time is near
    ." Revelation 1:1-4

    “Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the
    seven churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
    Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.”
    Rev. 1:11
    {these were churches of the 1st century that received
    this letter of Revelation}

    _____________________


    Revelation 13 presents the Beast as a horrible and
    powerful foe attempting to destroy God's people.

    Sometimes Revelation presents the Beast as a
    kingdom and sometimes as an individua leader
    of that kingdom.

    In some places the Beast has seven heads which
    are seven kings collectively considered.

    In Revelation 13:1 John notes that he saw a Beast
    coming up out of the sea having 10 horns and
    seven heads.
    Revelation 17:10 specifically says that the seven
    heads represent seven kings.

    Thus the Beast is presented as a kingdom.
    But kingdoms have representatives. This is why
    John also speaks of the Beast as an individual.

    John urges his readers to calculate the number of
    the Beast which is the number of a man Revelation
    13:18

    The Beast's General Identity is the first-century
    Roman Empire and NOT a "revived Roman Empire"
    as imagined by Dispensationalism.

    According to Revelation 17:9 the Beast's seven heads
    represent "seven mountains." The seven mountains
    symbolize Rome. Rome is the one city in history
    distinguished and recognized by its seven
    mountains.

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    The Beast's Specific Identify.
    The Beast in his personal identity is Nero Caesar. He
    and he alone fits the bill as the personal and specific
    expression of the Beast. This vile character fulfills all
    the requirements of the text of Revelation.

    First the number of the Beast. In Revelation 13:18
    the number of the Beast is 666. The usefulness of
    this number lies in the fact that in the first-century
    alphabets serve as both phonetic symbols and
    as arithmetical values. Significantly a common
    spelling of Nero Caesar's name is Nrwn Qsr,
    which provides the numerical value of 666

    Second the Textual Variant. See Dr. Gentry's
    book for this explanation. Page 381

    Third the Beastly Image.
    Revelation 13 both calls and portrays the one
    behind the 666 riddle as a "beast.". The term
    "beast" can easily symbolize persons with a
    beastly nature. Almost all scholars agree that
    Nero Caesar possessed a beastly nature.. Nero
    Caesar is even hated and feared by his own
    countrymen, as ancient Roman historians agree.
    The pagan writer Apollinius of Tyana, a
    contemporary of Nero Caesar, calls him a
    "beast."

    Fourth, the war with the saints.
    John's Beast will make war with the saints
    and overcome them.{Rev. 13:7} In fact
    Nero Caesar conducts a blasphemous war
    with the saints for a specific period of 42 months {Rev. 13:5}
    Nero begins his persecution of Christians in A.D. 64.
    The persecution finally ends when Nero Caesar dies
    on June 8, A.D.68 forty-two months later, but for a few days.
    {Point of interest: Nero's own end comes by the sword.}
    Conclusion: The Beast of Revelation was the beastly
    Nero Caesar of the 1st Century.
    End quote.
    Source
    He Shall Have Dominion
    by Dr. Kenneth L. Gentry Jr.
    pages 379 - 381
     
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    It will all pan out in the end. Panmillennialist view.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, this is what I know, and it doesn't contradict the Bible. WWIII started with Syria. Turkey will take it to the Aegean - which will be either this or next year. Russia will attack Turkey, and after defeating all the nations gathered there, Russia will continue to Iran and then Jerusalem.

    After a few months, the allies will get together and give Russia an ultimatum which Russia will ignore. The war will turn nuclear, and it will be universal - 2/3rds of humanity will die. A miracle will end the war, and a great man will be put in charge. The gospel will then be spread throughout the world, and for over 30 years it will be a golden age.

    Then the Antichrist will appear. He will be the most charismatic man that ever lived, the most brilliant and a great humanitarian. Some will see him as Christ, others as the 12th Imam, and the Jews as their Messiah. He will rebuild the Temple, and be voted in as a world leader. But in reality he will be the culmination of all evil. No one will be able to buy or sell unless they have the sign of the beast.

    His reign of terror towards Christians will last for 3 1/2 years, and then Christ will come.
     
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    That's a great fairytale. Someone should make a 3D movie about it.
     
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    The End.
     
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    I'm only quoting the Saints who said many decades ago that the USSR will fall apart, Turkey will invade Cyprus, Greece will fall into immense debt, Yugoslavia will dissolve, the EU will dissolve and Britain will be the first to leave.

    The Saints also said WWIII will start with Syria and then go to the Aegean. As for the US, we will suffer an ideological war, (which is goin on now), then have geological problems. After that we will be in a world war.

    Right now the Turkish navy is facing the Greek navy over the territorial rights in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean. Tomorrow is the day Attaturk signed the Treaty of Lausanne which to Erdogan was a humiliation. He has converted the Church of Aghia Sophia from a museum back into a mosque, and tomorrow the first Muslim prayers will be said. I don't doubt Erdogan's plans are to have their research ship search for oil in the Greek territorial waters during the Islamic prayers - which of course means war.
     
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