Potential Alternatives to the Capitalist System

An article about Chinese owned Volvo and Geely is linked below.

Note the least expensive new Geely costs $6,000- and has a lack of safety features more like a 1950s US car:
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http://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-geely-design-idUSKCN0Y81C3
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Trump can save America. Building the wall alone will save all of America from becoming like libcommie California. New trade deals will recreate a new middle class. This is political genius that libcommies don't have and cant understand.

 

actually on big and small scales in 132 countries and slowly starving to death 120 million human souls
. Nice that some crazies still are attracted to genocidal death cults.

 

There is a big difference between the writings of Karl Marx and 1950s Russia, even though 1950s Russia pretended to base their brutal dictatorship on the kinder socialism and communism ideas.

I think George Orwell explained it best in his simpler Animal Farm novel and his more complex 1984 novel.

I do not think that the 1 out of 10 in the US polling for the Libertarian Party (Johnson) or the 4 out of 100 polling for the Green Party (Stein) want us to go back to 1950s Russia.

Even Russia and China do not want to go back to 1950s Russia- maybe North Korea does.

I think the US libertarians and greens are ahead of their time, like Norway and Switzerland currently in a minority for better ways of doing everything.

I also think Trump and Hillary are saying whatever the US majority want to hear, and will rule in very different ways, like Obama and his continued support for troops in Afghanistan and Iraq, and his actions for whistleblowers like Assange and Snowden and the lack of prosecution for the bank leaders that mostly caused the 2007 to 2008 US recession (the opposite of the leaders in Iceland).

 

rambling disorganized post. You need to figure out if you're liberal, conservative and why. Do you understand?

 

"You need to figure out if you're liberal, conservative and why."

I am a member of the Green Party, with a masters degree in environmental biology and 25 years of experience for investigating problems caused by old (before 1983) coal mining.

The Green Party wants us to become more like Denmark, Norway, and Switzerland with their mix of liberal social ideas and conservative fiscal and environmental ideas, more like Sanders than Clinton and a lot less like Trump.

Trump seems to say any lie and destroy any place if he can profit from it. I think he refuses to release his tax returns because it shows him losing money every year and paying no federal taxes, the opposite of his successful billionaire (with several bankruptcies) story. The last major US presidential candidate to not release his tax returns was Nixon, and he did not end well, although I think now stealing a competitor's debate notes would not be considered as big of a crime, and it would likely be much better hidden now.

 

again rambling, silly, and meaningless. Why not tell us if you are liberal or conservative and why??

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so you're a standard libcommie like Sanders????

 

Rambling, silly, meaningless, libcommie- typical replies for someone who supports either Hillary or Trump instead of Johnson or Stein.

I know what I believe, even though the majority does not understand. I do not think the majority understood breaking away from England in 1750, or outlawing slavery in 1800.

I am socially liberal, fiscally conservative (taxes coming in should equal spending going out) and environmentally conservative (do not eat your seed corn for the next year).

For a better understanding of Dr. Jill Stein, you can read her recent interview at the link below.

Here are a couple of quotes about health care, that I do not see Hillary or Trump fixing:

“As a society, almost one 1 of 2 adults has a chronic disease of one form or another.

And where we’re spending $3 trillion a year not on a healthcare system, but on a sick-care system that tries to patch us up after we’ve been made ill by a variety of institutional things around us — including a sick food system, air pollution, etc.

Where we could be doing so much better even before people get to the point of getting sick.

We need to improve our failing healthcare system, where costs are skyrocketing and 1 in 3 Americans doesn’t have the healthcare that they need. Can’t afford it, even with their insurance.”

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http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-jill-stein-transcript-20160906-snap-story.html
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can you say why????????

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Capitalism would reduce prices 80% and extend our lives 10-20 years. Hows that????

 

I am socially liberal because it is a waste of time and money to harass minorities such as blacks, gays and/or pot smokers, and unethical in a country that supposedly believes in liberty and justice for all and often supposedly believes in the Christian values of charity toward the poor and loving your neighbors.

I think either Johnson or Stein would do more to reduce health care costs than Hillary or Trump.

They would both have a hard time dealing with our do nothing or do worse Congress and Supreme Court.

Most of Congress is bought by lobbyists and rich donors, often corporations including hospitals, sweat shop factories, and insurance companies that like bigger profits from ruining their workers' health and shafting citizens as a whole.

 

Are you trying to say that having a few basic rules or social standards is a waste of time and money?? that the people in a society don't need to have any ideas in common??

 

are you trying to say that social lberals care more about charity when social conservatives give more to charity than social liberals???

 

Eliminating unfair laws is not the same as removing all laws. We should focus more on enforcing and improving laws reducing violence and theft.

The happiest countries have a bigger safety net for the poor, and for those in the middle class who are one injury or one layoff from becoming poor.

 

goofy lie, we are happier than the French but they have a bigger safety net and think wealth distribution is worse there than Americans think it is here. Plus they have the per capita income of Arkansas about our poorest state.

 

France is number 32 on the list of happiest countries, and the US is at number 13.

Copying France is definitely in the wrong direction for the US.

Miostly countries in NORTHERN Europe are in the top ten for this list, with Denmark as number 1.

Canada and Australia are also in the top ten.

 

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