Pregnant Teen Forced to Drink Turpentine to Induce Miscarriage

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    3 Charged in Case of Pregnant Teen Forced to Drink Turpentine to Induce Miscarriage

    Three people have been charged in the case of a sexually abused teen forced to drink turpentine in an attempt to end her pregnancy.

    A state police criminal complaint says the pregnant 15-year-old was hospitalized and is now in the care of social workers.

    24-year-old Daniel Atwell was living with the girl and her mother. The mother told police she gave Atwell permission to have sex with her daughter.

    The mother said a morning-after pill she bought to end the pregnancy didn’t work. The teen told police her aunt, Sherry Kirk, then forced her to drink turpentine.

    Atwell and the girl's mother are charged with sexual assault; Kirk is charged with attempt to kill or injure by poison. All three are out on bail pending trial.
    https://rare.us/rare-news/across-the-u-s-a/pregnant-teen-turpentine-west-virginia/


    Hmm, interesting (from a legal standpoint). They are charged with attempting to kill by poison but the charges do not specify exactly whom they were attempting to kill.
    This is an example of a case where people can be prosecuted for trying to kill a fetus without the charges specifically making it clear that the punishment is for the death of the fetus.

    It also shows that the availability of legal abortion does not prevent these type of things from happening.
     
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  2. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It also shows how so often abortion is not the choice of the teen girl, and she is practically forced into it by other family members.

    So much for "choice"
     
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    I guarantee the full charging documentation will give all the details, including who the alleged victim was (which almost certainly would be the foetus, though similar charges in relation to the girl could be valid too).

    Like most laws, nobody expects them to prevent all incidents but they can and do reduce them.

    I’d question the “often”, even in the relation to teens but that would be the case regardless of legality and a formal legal process via medical professionals increases the possibility of such coercion (and underlying abuse) to be identified.

    The system isn’t perfect but you can’t offer any alternative that would be either. Constant argument over it will only distract from helping people like this girl in the first place.
     
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    Oh for pete's sake, it is OBVIOUSLY the one they FORCED to drink turpentine. The one they POISONED.

    Why is that so hard for YOU to figure out?






    They were not prosecuted for trying to kill a fetus.

    They were prosecuted for trying to kill the girl by poisoning her....WTF!

    Didn't you read your own OP ???

    WHY are you confused?


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    WHY TF should it?

    Legal abortion has NOTHING to do with raping a 15 year old and then poisoning her or robbing banks or tax fraud or driving without your seatbelt...........it's just another silly attempt by you to connect abortion with anything...
     
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    YES, isn't it awful to not have a choice!!!


    Glad you FINALLY see that!!!


    Being raped wasn't her choice either but you seem to skip over that part..

    Being made pregnant wasn't her choice.

    Having a mother who gave her to a man to rape was not her choice.

    Being forced to drink turpentine was an assault on HER....and NOT her choice..




    You have gone way above the call of duty to try to link abortion to this case.....another unbelievable strrrrrreeeetttttccchhh by you with no apparent purpose or logic involved......
     
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    The victim is the raped , impregnated, poisoned 15 year old, not the fetus.
     
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    This has nothing to do with choice. Forced abortion is WRONG!
     
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    Another thread fail. :)

    OP had nothing to do with abortion or women's right to choose..
     
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    You'll never be able to stop abortion; it's like gun ownership, if there is a will there is a way. You'll never take away all the guns in this country no matter how hard you try; the same goes for abortion as well.
     
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    :) This is a great OP for the Abortion Forum. It has nothing to do with abortion so it shows just how desperate Anti-Choicers are.



    They have no REAL arguments so come up with this desperate stretch to prove a point ..... a point that they don't have :)
     
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    What if these criminals felt strongly that what they were doing was right and they knew better than the pregnant woman?
     
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    So you support laws against parental notification if the child wants an abortion but the parents oppose but support a parent forcing an abortion on their child if the child doesn't want an abortion?
     
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    Read your own OP. "...charged with attempt to kill or injure ..." - the victim is the 15 year old. Ain't rocket science.
     
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    What part of Pro-choice don't you get? It's the choice of the mother in all situations, regardless of what parents of the mother want.
    Again, not rocket science.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    :) This is a great OP for the Abortion Forum. It has nothing to do with abortion so it shows just how desperate Anti-Choicers are.



    They have no REAL arguments so come up with this desperate stretch to prove a point ..... a point that they don't have :)

    """""""""""And total fabrications are all you have"""""""""""



    :) What an imagination!!! WHERE did I say any of that in the post you quoted???


    HILARIOUS!!! Anti-Choicers have to make up stuff in their vain attempt to have a point !!! LOL!


    AND What TF does your post have to do with the OP ????
     
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    I'm trying to reconcile the conflicts in the entire thread. Are you sad because the baby was killed or glad the abortion was successful in killing it?
     
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    There is no conflict , not if you READ the OP which is about :


    """"Atwell and the girl's mother are charged with sexual assault; Kirk is charged with attempt to kill or injure by poison. All three are out on bail pending trial."""


    SEE, nothing about abortion....
     
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