President needs a judge's OK to issue an EO

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  1. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    So, now a president can execute his business as president only with the approval of an unelected guy in a black robe. The judge says the president has the authority but only with his OK. HELLO! News flash for the ignoramus: if your OK is required the president does not have the authority; that's how authority works!
     
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    Perhaps we need an executive order that judges must clear sentencing decisions with the federal government bureaucracy.
     
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    Perfect example of liberal activist judges going outside their constitutional authority and attempting to become the most powerful branch of government.
     
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    The President should just ignore these swamprats from CA and NY. They are a shining example of how we end up with millions of people who don't belong here, and aren't wanted here with our hands seemingly paralyzed to stop the invasion.
     
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    Probably a mixture of desperation, and grandstanding. DACA has an expiration date. The SCOTUS must be tired of hosting legal seminars for liberal dummies. Sally Yates made a fool of herself, naturally she's become the "darling of the resistance". See how that works?
    Imbecile = hero ... Saw the thread on Gutierrez BTW ... another fine example. Big mouth, small brain? Move to the head of the class!
     
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    California and New York judges :roflol:

    A President or legislature cannot pass policy which prevents their successors from doing the same. That's basic af. I find it hilarious that now the judges decide it's time to limit EOs, when they're being used to try and roll back past EOs.
     
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    Did Obama have a judges OK to execute DACA in the first place, if the answer is no, then Trump is under no such restrictions.
     
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    100% agreed. If the activist judges think they can arrest the President for contempt of court, let them try.
     
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    EO's have to follow the law, or they can be reversed, this happened to Obama and Presidents before that too, nothing new, just have to let the process go to see where this ends up, my guess is like Obama's EO, we will never know as it will be settled before it ever makes it that far as the DACA children will be saved from Trump's actions before that
     
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    There ya go! How about rulings, too? Of course this would apply only to Republican administrations, which shouldn't be a problem as Democrats already live by their own set of laws.
     
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    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    and unfortunately having much success.
     
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    I'm sorry but didn't the DACA executive order of Obama's have a sunset provision?
     
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    You need to link the article and the title of your thread needs to match the title of the article.
     
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    No. In fact the court ruled against his sister plan, DAPA.
     
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    So what you are telling me is that Judges ruled against Obama too? That they require all Presidents to obey the Constitution?

    Shocking.
     
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    Except of course in this case no law was broken and the judge didn't even try to quote one broken statute.

    The judge instead declared that President must convince every single federal judge in the country that there is a "sound" reason for an EO before it can be executed.

    This idiocy of the justification is beyond ridiculous and the judge knows that, all he is doing is stalling.
     
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    "whether they offered legally adequate reasons for doing so,” wrote Judge Garaufis

    If DACA is deferred action by law enforcement against someone who is in violation of the law, that is "adequate reason".
     
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    Yes, the courts can strike down unlawful EOs. But they can't say a president cannot kill or stop an EO. That would be akin to a court ordering a president to issue some EO or another!
     
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    As I remember it, GOP lawmakers took legal action to prevent DACA ... pretty sure that effort fell flat, partly because the court recognizes presidential authority to grant or restrict immigration. That courts opinion being reaffirmed when Trumps immigration restrictions were upheld. Dems always looking for ways to have their own cake, and eat someone elses.
     
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    Really??? News to me. The only requirement I think is proper attribution.
     
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    This is called 'Lawfare'.

     
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    Obama lost tons of court cases. (and won some.)
     
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    Charade's over provision is more like it. The president must defer to congress when it comes to passage of permanent immigration legislation. I'm sure this creative jurist is working to usurp congregational authority too.
     
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    Obergefel gave them all a big head and loaded pen.
     
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    The judge, almost any judge, especially a federal judge, knows a hell of a lot more about the law then Trump. Trump is not a King. He does not have the right to do anything he wants. This is the US, not Russia.
     
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