President Obama needs an Imaginative Jobs Plan!

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  1. James Cessna

    James Cessna New Member

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    What is wrong with Barack Obama?

    What is it about his reasoning process and his skills as a Harvard educated "professor" that he cannot kick start our economy and get it moving once again in the right direction?

    His past ideas have included (1) tax increases on the wealthy, (2) green jobs, (3) two rounds of economic stimulus (4) increased tax-payer spending on millions of new public sector jobs and (5) quantitative easings 1 and 2.

    None of these new highly-touted plans have actually worked! Our economy is worse today and more people are out of work (14 million at last count) than when Barack Obama became president 32 months ago.

    It seems the latest plan among the struggling Democrats is to foment “race wars” between blacks and white in the hope this will re-energize Obama's base, they will show up at the polls and vote for him by the millions and he will win re-election in 2012.

    Unfortunately, they haven't given much thought about what will happen if Obama is elected to a second term under this very destructive scenario and how difficult it will be for the Democrats to govern if their latest plans for strife and conflict between the races and between the rich and poor are actually successful!


     
  2. James Cessna

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    The Democrats believe if they take more money (more revenue) from the "job creators" in the form of higher taxes they can get our economy rising again. And the clueless Democrats wonder why our national economy cannot lift off and once again and soar to new heights! Before we worry about other distractions, let's first concern ourselves with the Congressional policies that are really holding our economy back and preventing it from actually improving!
     
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    Geesh, since he just passed millions of dollars in new business regulations in July... the most effective jobs program he could announce would be that he's repealing Obamacare and all those new regs until our country is better financial shape.

    Fat chance, eh?
     
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    You are correct, Smartmouthwoman.

    Especially when you say, "The most effective jobs program he could announce would be that he's repealing Obamacare and all those new regs until our country is better financial shape."

    Thanks to the ObamaCare law, an astonishing 85 million people will soon be enrolled in Medicaid (or the children's version of it) by 2014 -- nearly a third of all Americans below 65. And what about "shared sacrifice"? The Obama health law imposed plenty of sacrifice on seniors and baby boomers: It slashed funding for Medicare by $500 billion over the next decade. It uses those "savings" to pay for two entitlements: a huge increase in Medicaid enrollment and new subsidies for middle-income Americans (families earning up to $88,000 a year) to pay for private health care plans Unfortunately, when push comes to shove, even this amount will not be sufficient to cover all of these millions of new enrollees!

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    "Never mind that Obamacare will increase taxes and help bankrupt us. It's Obama's legacy. But it's a legacy of socialism and failure."
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    That has become apparent since Jan 2009, he's dumb as a box of rocks.
     
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    You are very correct, Professor Peabody.

    Have you seen this chart

    It is very sobering!

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    Most of the jobs in America these days are in the fields of professional services, finance, insurance, health care and real estate! Only 11% of our jobs are in manufacturing where we actually make and assemble commercial products people can buy in our retail stores and dealerships. We have more people employed in government offices these days than we have people who work in manufacturing shops and on automotive and aircraft assembly lines! Obama must bring our manufacturing jobs back to the USA.
     
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    you are very mistaken, Kranes56.

    Again, you have jumped to an incorrect conclusion.

    This thread is not spam. It was inadvertently double posted by the software system as a result of a page freeze-up. This error happens quite often with this server when its on-line traffic becomes too high.

    Nice try, my friend, but no cigar!

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    "Wow! With these incorrect and misleading accusiations, 'Kranes56' drops another one!"
     
  9. Kranes56

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    How about I actually report it? What do you think the mods will say?
     
  10. James Cessna

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    Knock yuorself out, my friend.

    I have already reported it.

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    So then we wait.
     
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    Hey, Kranes56!

    I just checked. The post in the other forum has acquired almost 100 readers!

    The post in this forum and the post that was inadvertently included in other forum are both very popular so I guess the moderators will leave both of them up for now.

    Now we know why you follow me so closely and love to complain about my posts. You are jealous because my posts are so much more popular and well read than your posts!

    Nevertheless, I am very flattered that you continue to follow my posts so closely! If you ever have anything constructive to say, I would love to read it!

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  13. jmpet

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    Wild guess- you don't like Obama. I can tell by the HUNDREDS OF OBAMA HATE THREADS YOU HAVE STARTED HERE.

    You really are a one trick pony.
     
  14. James Cessna

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    Again, you are very mistaken, jmpet.

    I have nothing personally against Barack Obama. I just don't like his “big government” solutions to our economic problems . He is a feckless leader and is rapidly losing the support of his liberal base.

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    The liberals in this group cannot bring themselves to admit Barack Obama is a liberal elitist. Obama is clearly the greatest authoritarian and one of the phoniest and most insincere presidents we have ever had.Obama has been given everything all of his life. Other people (William Ayers) have even written his books for him. Obama has never understood the principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.
     
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    James, you have confused sectoral GDP percentages with jobs. Why am I not surprised?
     
  16. James Cessna

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    You are very mistaken, frodo.

    You know I never make mistakes like that.

    Besides, the greater the number of people you have working in a sector, the larger is the GDP in that sector.

    The two variables are directly related.

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    Frodo, did yuo catch Obama's speech last night?

    What did you think of it?

    My take is Obama wants us to believe he is a great administrator by unveiling this stimulus plan.

    What he did not tell us is that he intends to spend $447 B to create 1.9 million new jobs.

    If this is true, the jobs Obama will now create will cost the U.S. tax payers $235,000 for each new job that is added to the workforce.

    Somehow, Obama great plan for reviving our economy does not seem so great after all!
     
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    No they don't.
    Democrats favor tax increases on the rich as a matter of raising revenues while having less impact on the well-being of the poor and consumer demand. In and of itself taxing the rich is not for boosting the economy. Lowering taxes on the poor and middle class is.
    Taxing the rich is a means to the end without adding to the structural deficit.

    Really most liberal economists right now would prefer deficit spending, saving tax hikes for after the recovery. But since we're all of a sudden deficit-obsessed...

    As for "job creators", not everybody with extra money is a job creator. Right now a lot of corporations aren't even job creators!
    Jobs are created because a firm sees the likelihood of increased profit through the creation of a job, not because they have some extra money hanging around (that's more likely to just go in an executive's pocket).
    To maximize demand requires taking into account propenstiy to spend, hire amongst the poorer.

    By the way, what do Republicans have against infrastructure nowadays?
    It has to be done some time. Why not when people need the work? (the alternative is hiring people when the economy is doing well and thus actually crowding out firms!)
     
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    2012 is lining up to be a bloodbath for the Republicans. They're going to take it hard in Congress, and Obama will still keep the white house. I project they'll actually lose seats, even if the overall makeup of Congress won't shift. It is virtually inconceivable that they'll maintain a sizable majority in the House, not after the fiascoes that have come about since 2010. They'll probably get some traction in the Senate but won't take a majority.
     
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    Yes, exactly. The overall liberal position right now is "let's not worry about the deficit until the economy has recovered, because the debt is a long-term structural problem, instead let's worry about getting Americans back to work with government spending and stimulus. If, however, we have to deal with the deficit, it's better to raise taxes and continue spending than it is to cut taxes and cut spending."

    Right. If we really want to spur the economy, we'd raise taxes on the rich, thus encouraging business not to divest their profits (because reinvestment is tax deductible), and use the revenue to put the poor and middle class back to work to provide demand for goods. Not only would the government projects themselves require purchases and increased production, but the consumer spending from the newly employed would also help build the economy.

    Because that's a victory for the Democrats!
     
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    That's a pretty insane metric to use to measure the cost of a job. Really, how does the cost of steel and concrete for a bridge count as the cost of hiring someone? The bridge itself is an asset with value that the government retains, so the cost of the materials isn't really lost or spent.
     
  22. James Cessna

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    You can rationalize these numbers all you want, Someone.

    The mathematics are correct and they do not lie!

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    The private sector spends as much or more per job than the government does, by that measure.
     

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