President Trump Signs an Executive Order

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, Trump is building more wall. Yes in TX he kicked off more wall. We will finish that part of the wall within 9 months. He explains what he did in the video. I approve the wall. Don't tell me you do not want it, since as far as I am concerned you will admit our immigration laws do not matter to you. Following the law is no concern to you so I am not interested. I would like those who approve to give him a shout out that he keeps promises though. Thanks friends.

     
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    I believe the argument was that his "crisis" had more to do with the elections that anything else. I want to be sarcastic and say that Trump wants to get this wall deal done before the whole immigrant issue collapses, but I won't. Instead, it looks more like he's come to a couple of understandings: 1. Another shutdown will tank his ratings again, and 2. Pelosi made it clear that Trump shares power with Congress, and that Congress isn't going to knuckle under to his authoritarian style.
     
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    When will the illegal immigrant issue collapse? How many are currently here? Have they stopped illegally entering?

    lol
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Donor

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    Talk about authoritarian style. That sounds like we are discussing Abraham Lincoln to me.

    Trump identified the crisis as did the law upholders speaking to us with Trump. This nation has forever had quotas to enter this country. When our quota is full, we can't accept illegals merely because they crossed in illegally. We have no law allowing this. Democrats do not mind breaking laws to support the illegals.

    Shutdowns tank the government ratings. We all know that no bill was handed to Trump to sign to keep open the government until Nancy decided to turn one in. Democrats in the Senate blocked any deal that could be made in December.

    Trump is well aware he is only the executive that has the duty to protect us all plus carry out congress laws. But People who are democrats adored how Obama treated the office as though he were a dictator. He had no legal authority of any kind to create DACA. I call them hypocrites for loving it for Obama and hating it for Trump.
     
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    Trump used the wall as a campaign issue. For the first two years, it was an issue he touched on occasionally, but did little else. Then, the mid-terms came along and he turned an issue into a crisis. Those immigration numbers are a small fraction of what they were previously. This is where most of the disagreement was and is. Trump said he would not sign any bill that did not include funding for his wall. He said he'd take the heat for it, and as much as he tried to not take it, he had no other choice but to end his silly attempt at a power grab. And throwing this back on Obama only creates a strawman. This is all just political grandstanding and a total waste of taxpayer money.
     
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    Soon, I hope.
     
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    How will it collapse?
     
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    Yet his approval rating is rising while Pelosi's is falling. The border patrol is lining up cars to stop crossings. If the media were honest they would cover the facts.
     
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    Trump hopped to building the wall starting in 2017. He did far more than talk.
    He wants the funds the Democrats allege they would approve even during Obama's term Obama built a lot of wall but suddenly we must stop now?

    Trump was not allowed to take the heat. He would have taken the heat had he got a bill on his desk that he then vetoed. Democrats put the brakes on him getting a bill.

    How can Democrats claim the wall is a good deal when a Democrat president is there and suddenly change their minds when the president is a republican? nobody has explained that so far.
     
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    Trump, rightfully so, is blamed by the American people for shutting down the govt.

    It will be worse for him if he does it again.

    There will be no wall.
     
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    Who are you even replying to?
     
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    He got Mexico to pay for the wall?
    That’s absolutely amazing.
    I have to give him props, I thought he was a liar.

    Oh...

    I would like to read about this great achievement...

    Can’t find it on google but they are overtaken by left wing socialists wanting to control all of our completely rational thoughts!!!

    Tried Fox...
    Briebart...
    Stormfront...

    You have a source surely?
    For such exciting news!
     
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    Sorry, but the wall is under construction right now.
    You may also note Trumps popularity rating is up since the shutdown.
     
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    Meanwhile our record low and still declining birth rate poses a threat to the future of our country.Maine,Vermont,West Virginia and Puerto Rico currently have more dying than are being born,large states like Pennsylvania and Florida and several southern states are marginally positive in births over deaths.The number of citizens over age 65 will soon exceed the number of 18 and under citizens.The only racial or ethnic group with a positive birth rate are our Hispanics, and their rates are also declining now. White people of European ancestry are declining in numbers all over the world.Japan,Hungary, Russia and several other countries also have rapidly declining populations.
     
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    Its politics. Everyone's a hypocrite.
     
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    The wall that Trump is NOT under construction.
     
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    Trump's chaos is a diversionary.. I don't know how anyone expects to correct immigrations laws if they lie about the damned facts. Trump's wife took advantage of chain migration.. Wonder what Robert thinks of that?

    The wall is not the answer and it doesn't address about 60% of the problems.. So right wing pinheads squeal the lie that "Democrats want open borders"....
     
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    You might also note that since there has been a border there has been some kind of barrier, wall, construction going on. I would imagine that every year there is some money allocated for an improvement here or there as changing times require. You should also note that those repair/upgrades that have been going on over the years are not "TRUMP'S WALL". If I read the paper correctly this morning trump is getting 1.4 billion for HIS WALL. It will be fun watching him spin that into a victory.
     
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    Are you a big fan of chain migration? Trump is.. How many illegals were working for him in NJ?
     
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    "
    In February, crews will begin building 14 miles of levee walls just south of McAllen, Texas, in the Rio Grande Valley — the busiest point for illegal entries along the southwest border.

    Customs and Border Protection awarded two contracts worth a total of $312 million to SLSCO Ltd. of Galveston, Texas, to build the barriers."

    "U.S. Customs and Border Protection has received more than $1.6 billion in fiscal years 2017 and 2018 for border infrastructure. That money is paying for the eight scheduled projects, and a few more that have not been announced yet. Homeland Security officials said more contracts will be awarded in coming weeks."

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...trumps-border-barriers-built-2019/2389940002/

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/us-mexico-border-wall-being-built-slowly/
     
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    Levee infrastructure makes good sense. Upgrading their barriers makes good sense. They are not the "wall" that Trump was talking about.
     
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    Most illegals fly in.
     
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    People will recognize that it's a mostly just an election issue and it will go back to being a concern rather than a crisis.
     
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    Trump's approval rating dropped during the shutdown. If it's recovered, oh well. Pelosi may have handed Trump's ass to him, but overall, I don't think Democrats care much for her.
    As far as the media, that's one tired old argument. All media is biased. Some media favors Trump, some media doesn't. It's marketing. If we blame the media, we fail to understand that it's our responsibility to identify bias and get information from a variety of sources. We must have critical thinking skills. Those who see things in terms of good media and bad media lack those skills.
     

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