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President Trump Signs Defense Bill Creating Space Force — First New Military Branch Since 1947

Discussion in 'Warfare / Military' started by US Conservative, Dec 20, 2019.

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  1. Gatewood

    Gatewood Well-Known Member

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    You get what you fight for or not. There are no guarantees. In a way it's being willing to fight that matters. Passive people get what they are given. Something to think about.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ask Russia that Germany wants to support.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 21, 2019
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    Trying to force an allied nation to buy more expensive american LNG is ok for american values? Last time i checked thats against evrything USA stands for.

    You know for us it feels Strange. The Pipeline will be completed, No matter what. But to see a country that we saw as genuine friend, doing that...feels like absolute betrayal
     
    Sobo, Dec 21, 2019
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  4. Sobo

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    So you support that we ignore it and do complete the Pipeline? Merkel Said she will ignore the American attempts and move on completing the Pipeline.
     
    Sobo, Dec 21, 2019
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  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Supporting Russia of course.
     
    Hoosier8, Dec 21, 2019
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  6. Sobo

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    No, supporting Germany. We need cheap energy. Russian gas is 30% cheaper than american LNG. Getting gas through a pipeline is also more economical than liquify it with extreme energy consumption and ship it over the Atlantic.

    Supporting Nordstream 2 is fundamental for german energy demand.

    There is something called free market. You can offer your LNG on our market. Its not blocked. If your price gets lower than that of the russians, people will buy it. Thats how free market works.

    Some here say that your country openly uses mafia methods now shows that you are finished as a nation.
     
    Sobo, Dec 21, 2019
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  7. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Really?

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    Daniel Light, Dec 21, 2019
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  8. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    National defense is a legitimate function of govt.

    Transgender tampon dispensers not so much.
     
    US Conservative, Dec 21, 2019
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  9. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A war fighting domain is the location that military conflict will be waged in. Examples include the digital domain, etc.

    It will be paid for by cutting food stamps, planned parenthood funding, illegal immigrant sex change surgeries, and NPR.

     
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    The end of the communist revolution was a win for the us and the west. No longer would the communist USSR seek to spread communism and dictatorship.

    A space force was included in the pnac paper from a neocon think tank.

    So we are still implementing pnac.

    You can read that neocon dream online to see the demand for a space force as well as increases in war spending that is required for hegemony. They also wanted Iraq taken down and Hussein removed . Which they accomplised by lying about iraq.

    So if you want to know future policy just read the pnac policy that bush and congress implemented. And you can use that crystal ball until someone like tulsi gets elected.
     
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    I know its total CT, but I'd be very surprised if we don't have any spacecraft. Now we have an agency to run them.
     
    modernpaladin, Dec 21, 2019
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    ET's are laughing their socks off.
     
    JCS, Dec 21, 2019
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  13. JCS

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    :roflol:
     
    JCS, Dec 21, 2019
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    Lets worry about our global adversaries first.
     
    US Conservative, Dec 22, 2019
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  15. JCS

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    Space weapons aren't necessary to defeat our global adversaries. They're all sitting in government buildings. Just stop following them & stop giving them an audience and they'll go away.
     
    JCS, Dec 22, 2019
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    I do presume that this is an effective masking of the anti ballistic missile program,a continuation perhaps of the strategic defense initiative of former President Reagan before,dubbed by the Democrats as "Star Wars".
     
    Thehumankind, Dec 22, 2019
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  17. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I wish war was that simple-it never is.

    That may change one day. You could even argue ICBM's fit that criteria since they travel into "space".

     
    US Conservative, Dec 22, 2019
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  18. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, like missile shields generally-that is hopefully part of the case.
     
    US Conservative, Dec 22, 2019
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    I think you'd better do the math...

    Taking away food and education from children (THOSE PRECIOUS LIVES RIGHTIES GO ON AND ON ABOUT but don't really care about) , defunding PP, and illegal detention care (which is basically non-existent) hardly comes to 13 billion...


    Try again.....:)
     
    FoxHastings, Dec 22, 2019
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    we did...

    just wasn't made public at the time...

    gonna be many more years before they spill the beans on what craft we're using...
     
    Blaster3, Dec 22, 2019
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    Gosh, all these years I have operated under the (poor) presumption that conservatives favored small government.
     
    Eleuthera, Dec 22, 2019
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  22. JCS

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    This sentiment by conservatives reminds me of a spoiled child who expects to get everything he wants whenever he wants from his parents, but otherwise wants his parents to stay out of the way as he happily spends their money.
     
    JCS, Dec 22, 2019
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    it's part of the air force... will have a few thousand people in it from what I heard
     
    FreshAir, Dec 22, 2019
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    Ouch.
     
    Labouroflove, Dec 22, 2019
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  25. Labouroflove

    Labouroflove Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its the new high ground.
     
    Labouroflove, Dec 22, 2019
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