President Trump's MSM Coverage is Over 90% Negative

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  1. ocean515

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    It doesn't take an international negotiator to see the facts.

    You claimed this first bullet point was a blatant lie:

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    That bullet point:

    Unprecedented improvement in Relations with North Korea avoiding possible Nuclear War.
    NK has not launched a single missile, nor conducted any nuke tests. They have returned remains of US Soldiers, and it appears the President will be meeting with Kim again, in Hanoi, at the end of the month.

    So tell me, since you seem to be the one who is the international negotiator with all the facts, explain how there has been no improvement in Relations, and how nuclear war is more possible than ever.
     
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    I mean, if a war was avoided, it was only the one that trump almost started. The return of soldier's remains is not anything new, the meetings are meaningless, other than to get concessions from trump. And, they pretty much don't need to launch missiles. Essentially trump threatened to burn his house down, then decided against it and is claiming that he saved his house. The reason you know he hasn't done anything is because first of all, he hasn't done anything, just mean tweets (which really is all he ever does), and secondly, intelligence chiefs say essentially nothing has changed.
     
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    North Korea has not decommissioned a single warhead, nor stopped production of new nuclear weapons. And we've found at least one NEW production facility. Every administration has had talks with North Korea - that's nothing new. The only thing that's different is that this President gets along better with Despots than our allies. And that's NOT a good thing.
     
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  4. ocean515

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    So you got nothing. Just your own bias driven opinion.

    I'll leave you to it and move on. No need to waste any more time.
     
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    Really? Why don't you post something to prove your claims?

    These guys seems to have a different take:

    https://www.38north.org/

    It amazes me that bias and hatred can be so consuming, it blocks out all objective thinking.
     
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  6. Etbauer

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    I mean... do you have an example of something he actually DID to avert a war. I also have the opinion of the intel chiefs... how can you do better than that?
     
  7. Daniel Light

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    I looked through your link. Nowhere do they say North Korea has dismantled any of their nukes nor stopped production. It states they're continuing with their program. There are some articles that say IF an agreement can be made ... but nothing that shows concrete progress ... just "If's".

    So no. They do not have a "different take."
     
  8. ocean515

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    An example? Look outside, or ask a Hawaiian, Japanese, or South Korean.

    You got the opinion of intel chiefs, post a link to them.
     
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    Ohh, I get it. On an unrelated topic, I have alien abduction repellent rocks to sell you. I know they work because I haven't been abducted by aliens. Meanwhile, you were telling me how great a president obama was because we didn't get nuked while he was president?...
     
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    No way you looked through the link I provided. Why would you claim you did?

    https://www.38north.org/2018/09/march16factory091218-2/
    https://www.38north.org/2018/08/sohae080718/
    https://www.38north.org/2018/07/sohae072318/
    https://www.38north.org/2018/06/ihari060618/

    I could post more, but this is a waste of time.

    If you can't be honest, why should anyone engage in a discussion with you?
     
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    So no links. Nothing.

    I'll move on. There is nothing here.
     
  12. Etbauer

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    Lol, I always like the "humph, well, if YOU simply refuse to blindly accept my completely unsupportable conclusions even though I have no evidence to support them, then I'm just taking my toys and going home!"
     
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    Weaponized media, even the automatic firing type seems to have lost its ability to destroy. MSM news is simply a soap opera played out every day.
     
  14. ocean515

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    Unsupportable? The evidence is clear to even blind people!

    Have missiles been launched, nukes tested? You claim that's not necessary any more. Really? Then why do we test fire out missile systems all the time?

    You claim you have the opinion of intel chiefs. Post a link to them. Oh that's right, you apparently can't or won't.

    LOL

    Have an interesting day.
     
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    https://www.militarytimes.com/flash...contradict-trump-on-north-korea-isis-threats/
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/...o-missiles-2018-isn-t-necessarily-due-n949971
     
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    US intel chiefs share latest assessment of North Korea, Iran nuclear programs
    https://www.defensenews.com/global/...essment-of-north-korea-iran-nuclear-programs/

     
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    Simple. Google the Military Times article on the rift between Intelligence Chiefs and Trump at the latest Congressional hearings. Jan. 29, 2019.
    (Can't seem to get it to link, but you have the information needed). I don't think the Military Times would be regarded as MSM.

    Edit - I see others have linked it for you above. You've been owned.
     
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  18. ocean515

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    How about going to the actual report, rather than the edited out of context bits the presented?

    I'll highlight the portion left out.

    https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/2019-ATA-SFR---SSCI.pdf


    North Korea
    Nuclear Ambitions
    Pyongyang has not conducted any nuclear capable missile or nuclear tests in more than a year, has declared its support for the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, and has reversibly dismantled portions of its WMD infrastructure. However, we continue to assess that North Korea is unlikely to give up all of its nuclear weapons and production capabilities, even as it seeks to negotiate partial denuclearization steps to obtain key US and international concessions. North Korean leaders view nuclear arms as critical to regime survival, according to official statements and regime-controlled media.

    In his 2019 New Year’s address, North Korean President Kim Jong Un pledged that North Korea would “go toward” complete denuclearization and promised not to make, test, use, or proliferate nuclear weapons. However, he conditioned progress on US “practical actions.” The regime tied the idea of denuclearization in the past to changes in diplomatic ties, economic sanctions, and military activities.
    I'm not going to waste time on the partisan opinion the frauds at NBC attempted.
     
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    Ok, 'reversibly', and he said a few words, so... if you are taking a kim's word as gospel then... . Again, they aren't really DOING anything differently, and why would they? We haven't DONE anything other than give him legitimacy, threaten his enemies, and give him the concession of ending exercises in the south.
     
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    A Constitutional crisis created by Trump on Friday, and his fans refused to discuss it.

    Will Trump's fans soon begin to reject Trumpism?

    They already have. They refuse to talk about what Trump is saying and doing. They refuse to talk about his wall. They refuse to talk about the Constitutional crisis Trump has caused. They don't want to talk about Trump's end run around Congress. They don't want to talk about Trump's attack on the Separation of Powers principle within our Constitution. Republicans used to hold the Constitution sacred and they strongly opposed liberal changes to the meaning of the Constitution. Now Trump is trying to change the Constitution. Trump's fans don't want to talk about that either.

    Trump's fans don't want to talk about Trump. Where is their support? It's gone. Trump is finished.

    They don't want to talk about that, either.
     
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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump


    There is great anger in our Country caused in part by inaccurate, and even fraudulent, reporting of the news. The Fake News Media, the true Enemy of the People, must stop the open & obvious hostility & report the news accurately & fairly. That will do much to put out the flame...



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    My grits are just fine. Do you deny the Stok and Page E-mails? Or Rosenstein considering wearing a bug devise to entrap a duly elected President? Or Comey making the decision not to prosecute Hillary for deleting e-mails??
     
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    Quoted for truth.

    God Bless Trump.
     
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    So, you have nothing? That fake scandal has, 8 or 10 people convicted or about to be convicted. So fake, isn't it.
     

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