Pride Is Still a Sin and the Rainbow Still Belongs to God

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    XXJefferson#51 Banned

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    So if a priest can go celibate for life why is it biologically impossible for a homosexual to be celibate rather than engage in deliberate sin?
     
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    Permanent denial of relations involving sex is not a natural human condition.

    Obviously, you can have a personal definition of sin if you want.

    But, you have ABSOLUTELY NO right to impose your religious views on others.
     
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    God steals everything from Mother Nature. Just another example of a man taking credit for a woman's work ;)
     
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    It never rained before the flood. That was one reason Satan was so successful in tempting the wicked to not believe the warnings.
     
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    How is it that a toddler had 120 years to repent and change their ways? Were all toddlers elderly back then?
     
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    my post is part of God's plan...

    he says, read the bible... they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

    in support of same gender marriage

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 7:8-9&version=NIV

    "
    8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.
    9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
    "
     
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    It isn't impossible, why would I live a celibate life because of your hang ups?

    You are the one that believes it's a sin not me.
     
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    People were living to 900+ years of age back before the flood.
     
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    And yet marriage is only between a man and a woman. There were no gay marriages then because up until then anyone trying such a thing in that culture would have been stoned. Jesus never addressed the matter because that was one area his people then hadn’t messed up yet. What He did to Sodom and Gomorrah had not been forgotten by Gods people to that point.
     
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    BS gay relationships existed in those days. Nothing ever addressed it because it wasn't necessary.
     
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    What a terrible story! God creates faulty humans and instead repairing them he decides to murder them all – except a few selected samples, who as history shows are not better – they begets Genghis Khan, Hitler, Stalin, Leopold II of Belgium, Mao, Putin, Pol Pot and more. And the rainbow is a promise not to flood anymore? Here is a list some floods:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_floods

    And what killing humans with tsunami, earthquakes, volcanoes, pandemics? Terrible, terrible God! How a perfect God can create such imperfect world?
    The answer is very simple – such terrible God does not exist, it is a product of a sick humane imagination. But don’t lose your hope – God exist. There is a perfect God – His name is Flying Spaghetti Monster. You can ask how a perfect God created such imperfect world? The answer is very simple – Flying Spaghetti Monster created the world while being drunk, but instead of murdering humans He let us live and to reword us in the afterlife. The paradise of Flying Spaghetti heaven is true paradise, volcanoes spill cold beer and stripper factories creates strippers whose only purpose is to make us happy – and there are strippers for everyone, for men, for women, for straight, for gays, even for necrophiliacs. And what about bad people? They go to hell. The hell looks like paradise, but volcanoes spill stale beer and strippers suffer from STD.

    Surround yourself to Flying Spaghetti Monster before is too late!

    R'amen!
     
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    The flood the ark are a myth and could never of happened, physically impossible.

    How did 4million animals fit in the ark, how does a small number of breading pairs reconstitute a whole species, how did all the marine animals survive the changes in water temperature and salinity. Base your life off myths if you like I have no problem with that, but don't claim them as truths that other people should live by when the simplest of questions can't be answered.
     
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    And nobody had been born for 120 years before the flood? That's your story?
     
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    They did in Greek and Roman culture around them have plenty of it. They knew it was wrong as Paul wrote in his New Testament letters to various early churches. He also said that people who committed all sorts of sins including that one could not enter the kingdom of Heaven but people who used to do such including that could be forgiven and given victory over said temptation and were saved.
     
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    God was fair and just in dealing with humanity at that point in time and with the people living in Canaan after the exodus. At the end everyone who ever lived will see their lives before them and be shown the opportunities they had to make other choices and did not. Then every knee will bow and acknowledge that Gods judgement was/is fair and just.
     
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    Because might makes right, ya? Obey the powerful and all that?
     
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    RE: Pride Is Still a Sin and the Rainbow Still Belongs to God
    SUBTOPIC: What happend to the "All-Knowing and Perfection" in the God of Abraham?
    ⁜→ et al,

    (EXORDIUM) IF the God of Abraham could not foresee the imperfections of humanity THEN the God of Abraham is flawed and not the Supreme Being.
    ........................IF the God of Abraham could not set the conditions for "me" to develop such capacities as to be a productive member of society THEN the God of Abraham is flawed and not the Supreme Being.

    (COMMENT)
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    Obviously, we as the creation, do not understand the Plan being implemented by the Supreme Being, and WHAT role humanity plays in that plan. IF there is a Supreme Being of the Universe(s), THEN there is a "Product Liability" issue. And given my many flaws and inabilities, No question about it. I am defective. I have a good case to take whatever entity created to task on that very issue.

    Any judgment the God of Abraham might find necessary in dealing with humanity is actually self-judgment on the quality of the creation (humanity). IF the elements in humanity have been less than successful, THEN the fault rests with the creator. Any action, thought, ability, intellectual capacity, and any disability reflected in the creation (humanity) THEN either the God of Abraham is an imperfect being → OR any lifeform the God of Abraham delivers flawed, was flawed intentionally (or beyond the creators' ability to prefect) knowing that conflict and crisis would develop as a result.

    I am an imperfect owing my many flaws and characteristics to the output of the creator of the species. IF I am a bad person, THEN I am bad because the genetics had that as an outcome. The God of Abraham made me that way; as surely as he did not give me the gift of art, music, or athletic ability.

    Look all around you and wonder at the many flaws suffered upon humanity. The inability for everyone to dispense fairness is because the God of Abraham set the conditions.

    A loose interpretation of his actual quote.
    "God does not play dice with the universe."
    ~ Albert Einstien
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    Most Respectfully,
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    So you are saying that God made a mistake by giving his creation a free will, that he should’ve made us so that we worship and obey him as automatons. Or that having seen the rebellion of Lucifer He should have judged and destroyed him on the spot so that doubt about what he said would persist and the created would worship Him out of fear. God had to let this play out so that the entire universe of created beings would see His actions as just and fair.
     
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    Delete
     
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    they exist everywhere and always have. It's just whether or not they are secret.
    Nobody should ever be concerned with your hangups even if you project them onto characters in The Bible.
     
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    nope, per Jesus, you should not even marry, but....


    "
    8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.
    9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
    "
     
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    Hmmm.. I had cousins, twins that were born with both male and female genitalia. My ant and uncle did not make a decision to assign sex as is sometimes done. But then this was back at the end of the 40’s, not sure the med tech was being applied in those days. Anyway, one of the twins went on to self identify as a man (became a doctor with an international reputation ) the other self identified as a woman. Regardless, in any choice of partner the made would they have been labeled homosexual? Curious. By the way the one identifying as a femal had 2 children; biological.
     
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    "the Rainbow Still Belongs to God"

    sure makes some on the right mad to see the Rainbow
     
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    I always wondered what that would be like.
     
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    They don't want to reclaim it because people will think they are gay.
     
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