Pride Is Still a Sin and the Rainbow Still Belongs to God

RE: Pride Is Still a Sin and the Rainbow Still Belongs to God
SUBTOPIC: Some Devine Accountability
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(EXORDIUM) IF there is a Supreme Being, as we generally perceive it to be, THEN the Supreme Being is NOT Perfect! And that conclusion raises many issues. But as the conclusion specifically relates to the central topic, one of the Seven Deadly Sins (Pride), that is the fault of the Supreme Being (not a question of "Free Will").
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(COMMENT • ASSUMING THERE IS a SUPREME BEING)

You are almost right, but not quite.

IF the "Divine Creation" (singular) is born a sociopath or born with a disability, that is not an issue choice (Free Will) on the part of the creation. THAT is Devine's fault. The Supreme Being had a choice to make you without hard-wired extreme antisocial behavior - or - limit you from the start as a dysfunctional or impaired person.

IF you buy a car that has a wrapped manifold or malformed fuel injectors, that is a defect at the manufacturer's level. You did not go to the dealership and ask for a lemon. And from a product liability standpoint - the manufacturer has a responsibility to make it right. But in the case of giving birth to a sociopath, that is a fault at the Devine level.

"Free Will" is a question of the possibility of choice. IF the Supreme Being (all-powerful, all-knowing, everywhere at once) knows "today" that you will, on the way to work tomorrow, stop at Tim Horton's for a coffee and a donut, THEN you do not have a choice. The Supreme Being cannot be fooled. The Supreme Being cannot have inaccurate information (defective foreknowledge). When tomorrow comes the conditions are already set for you to buy the coffee and donut. IF the Supreme Being knows something about the future, THEN it must be true. And IF it is true, THEN the future cannot unfold differently. It cannot be the case that you will not stop and buy the coffee and donut. The question of "Free Will" is a question of the all-knowing capacity of the deity. Can the all-knowing Deity have wrong information about what will happen tomorrow? We call this "FATE."

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The Supreme Being cannot be taken by surprise. IF the Supreme Being did not want a rebellion, the Supreme Being will set the conditions such that Lucifer will not take an unholy path. We call this "THE WILL OF GOD." The Supreme Being does not need to judge or destroy anything. The Supreme Being just wills Lucifer to live happily ever after. And it cannot unfold differently.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.

18 Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God’s.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6-9&version=NKJV

 

Trump?

 

I'm not sure Paul was ever a real person it seems like he was just added into it to make Christianity more palatable to Romans.

 

Was he a real person when he was Saul and was persecuting Christians in the region and present at Stephens stoning to death?

 

I'm familiar with this story. But there's more to it than just the story. There is Constantine in the niacin council.

The nursing council could have just made up Paul to make the religion more palatable to Romans.

 

How many kingdoms does he have to give away?

 

None. It’s about who is let into His Lingdom.

 

So then we really would not be 'inheriting' his kingdom, bummer I wanted to take a tour!

 

Palatable enough for the Romans to execute him and persecute the Church for 200 years? Emperor Constantine making the church not only legal but the state religion so it would then compromise its beliefs with pagans for the next 1000 years or so was the worst thing that happened to the Church.

 

Nothing to stop such a tour of the kingdom if one is permitted by Grace through faith to be a part of it.

 

Exactly. Connecting a religion to government is always a major mistake.

Our founders made that point, understanding the long years of history in the UK and Europe.

 

Dr. Ben Carson makes that point as well here: https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/ben-carson-religion-god-values/2022/06/18/id/1075017/

 

I don't know this issue well. I haven't heard of people suggesting that one can't talk about God in public.

That sound like someone is making excuses for government representatives promoting their personal religion from a government pulpit.

Is Carson really going to make an issue out of the fact that a bunch of religious zealots managed to get the name of their deity on US coinage???

To me, that looks like an insult to that god.

 

Much humor mate .. who is the "deviant" in the room .. calling kettle black ?

 

First you say Jesus has no kingdom to give away .. then you say its "His Kingdom" .. Which of course makes no sense.

Second - "who is let into His Kingdom" Who might that be mate .. how does one get into the Kingdom .. and is there anything that can bar one from entrance..

And before you answer .. just to let you know .. Your wrong .. Ouch .. goona be hot where your going.

 

You started your post with 'to me'. Then you go on to judge that their appropriation of YOUR interpretation is indicative of dishonor and lies. I respect your personal opinion, or at least, your right to hold one. But to make judgments on folks who violate YOUR interpretation of a phenomenon found in nature pushes it a bit...

 

You lost me at your first sentence making a generalization about all sin.

In the Bible not all pride is sin, i.e., if it carries a positive reference to self-worth, self-respect, and self-confidence its not defined as sinful and so this is why in discussions about pride being sinful, to differentiate between sinful pride and non sinful pride the term FALSE is often put before the word pride to connotate when it becomes sinful.


Next you lost me when you started preaching as to what the "Supreme Being thinks" But not prefacing it as words from you as to what you believe the "Supreme Being" manifests the classic Biblical example of false pride.

Since when do you claim to be able to tell others your views and those of :"God" are one and the same. That is quite the assumption.

So its ironic you lecture on sinful pride by engaging in it and not adapting a more humble approach to discussing it.

What I argue back to you is said with humility because I am in fact a cockroach if I may humbly use that example.

I do not speak for anyone but me and can not claim to and fully admit I am a sinful person by nature and have to constantly struggle to reduce the size of my ego which is the source of false pride.

Like a cockroach I can adapt but I get caught up in a lot of ****.

I believe many religions and philosophies teach the same kind of themes of evolving by being tolerant and kind to others and giving of ourselves without expecting pay back and in so doing, by engaging in these small acts of giving, we heal the world, connect to the life energy we share with all other life forms and are connected to.

So while I appreciate you want to share your lessons, thanks you lost me when you would not distance your words from the words of "God" and pose them as one of the same.

I hear daily the noise of many preachers. They mistake their calling as allowing them to have false pride and climbing mountains from which to pronounce their sermons but with due respect you and I are no more an expert on "God" than the most humble and simplistic of life forms on our planet.

In fact an insect in its one way has knowledge I will never know and that could teach me something. I am just too stupid to figure out how to communicate on its level.

Here is me so when you preach you might want to resist squish me lol:

 

So, you are wishing / suggesting that I end up burning in hell?

 

Some things are self evident. It's to civilized people of conscience to acknowledge that. That's how civilization is built. Everything about the deviant movement is a lie. It isn't gay. It isn't an alternate lifestyle. And there is nothing rainbowish about it. It's simply perverted. Lastly they aren't private about it. They are publicly pushing an unconscionable lie. They parade debauchery down main street. They perverted the marriage covenant. They are destroying businesses and owners who don't wish to participate in their deviancy. They are ruining womens sports. And they are demanding unfettered access to the nations little children in public schools. That is hardly private or minding ones own perverted business. What began as a bleating plea has become a snarling demand, because that's what it always was at heart....a vicious lie. And I don't care who disagrees with this. It's the truth.

 

What do you mean?

 

Niacin council?

 

The idea that there was nothing to learn subsequent to Paul's letter to the Corinthians is just unbelievably ridiculous.

Beyond that, there ARE immoral acts related to sex. That is NOT the debate.

 

I may not have spelled it correctly it was the council where they decided what books go into the Bible essentially they created the Bible