It just makes it hard to tell what is quote and what is subsequent comment. I only point out that it's harder to follow your comments and chain of reasoning. As to the topic, I think we are pretty much of a mind, but not sure.
I'm rather lost as to what you are trying to say here, especially with the "Women are" post before the quote of my post.
I am not a mind reader and should not be expected to sort through your scattered posts to figure out which thread you are discussing. Its not hard to figure out why there are separate threads. Do you have anything on this topic?
Then why is it, the majority in this forum and the USA don't want R v W over turned? By over a 2:1 margin on this very RW leaning site is NO, don't overturn R v W. So I am in the majority. You are in the very small percentage. And legally, that is also when it becomes a legal person. Prior to that, the host mother determines any rights it is afforded. How do you not know this basic stuff?
Yes ... and what you stated was related to the previous topic. You change your tune like a leaf blowing in the wind changes directions. You should strive for a little consistency in your principles.
Yet you cannot quote a single inconsistency. Instead, you are quoting posts from one thread with a reply to a post from an unrelated thread while giving advice on consistency. This is great!
What is the matter ???? Quotes by the other poster are in green.....responses are in white....(?????)
Now you are just engaging in self denial and delusion. You can lie to me and others if you like but, do stop lying to yourself
"sometime between birth and death, a person may choose not to abort, which according to you, makes them pro-life.… which means all pro-choice" Your reading comprehension skills are suspect here. Read the OP again. Sometime between conception and birth only 13%-18% of people still believe abortion is acceptable and at that point they transition from pro choice to pro life as defined in the parameters of the abortion debate. You are arguing sometime before birth and death? What's that about? Try to keep up. Focus. Pay attention.
Well that's the question isn't it. When is the zygote generally accepted by the vast majority of people to be a living baby that needs all the rights to life as any other person. Only a small minority believes that not to be until birth.
Given the numbers of those wanting RvW to remain in place, I'd say birth is the point that most people want legally. Their personal point for themselves, however, may be different. And actually the zygote is not in question, and for the most part nor is the embryo. Fetus is the contentious period and also the period that rarely has an abortion occur that isn't a medical necessity.
Say and think what you want but throughout this thread I have given multiple statistics from a variety of sources saying just the opposite. The vast majority of people are against late term abortion. This is established fact not heresay and what I think or would like to think as you seem to prefer and RVW does not address late term abortion specifically
That's funny. A boatload of wishful thinking, but funny. This is the same as those folks who claim everyone becomes conservative as they get older. That's not what happens. You just get more selfish and cynical with age. Your world shrinks because your main concern tends to be the family and friends in your chunk of the world and conservatism bends toward the selfish. It's doesn't mean it's evil selfishness, but it is selfishness nonetheless. But even that has a logical basis, whereas the OP's claim does not. You don't "grow out of" believing a person should have control over their own body that is not being limited so other folks can pat themselves on the back and think they've done something helpful. Fund your virtue garden in ways that don't seek to arbitrarily control someone else.
Keep on reading the thread and you will find your boatload of multiple statistics sourced through a wide variety of sites that prove the contention of the OP to be accurate at every level
I agree most people are against late term abortion if it is a viable and mother is healthy. What about someone like my friend who had a late term abortion because her fetus had its brain outside it’s skull? Why not ask people if they approve of late term abortion if it means saving the woman’s life? Once again you have to have it explain to you that healthy viable fetus is and healthy mothers is not the issue
[/QUOTE] Yes that is the issue and finally you admit late term abortion on demand is rejected by all but a few zealots.
THat has been the topic all along. First trimester most people including myself are pro choice. The longer the pregnancy goes on more and more people switch to pro life until finally by the third trimester over 80% become pro life.
Yes that is the issue and finally you admit late term abortion on demand is rejected by all but a few zealots.[/QUOTE] Oh well once you twist my words around I have to walk away
I think what you are talking about ia personal choices. Like when I was pregnant I could have considered having an abortion in the first trimester but the longer my pregnancy went on, I didn’t turn to anti-choice but I did not want to have an abortion with a healthy fetus,That doesn’t mean I was anti-choice