Professional Hacker Reveals How Car Industry Spies on Drivers

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  1. Professor Peabody

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    Actually they can and do when it comes to all international calls.
     
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    So what telecomm company records my domestic call conversations on the phone.....proof please.
     
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    All of them are required by law to provide recordings of any international calls that you make.

    In case you have forgotten that was Bush/Cheney's misnamed "Patriot Act" law!
     
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    Are you not worried by PRISM, xkeyscore, Five Eyes, etc?

    Their argument that they can collect the information without a warrant and view it later after judicial review seems to me extremely spurious. And we only know about this because of a whistleblower who lives in exile.

    So much for accountability. At least I can (and have) deleted Facebook. I can't delete the NSA.
     
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    Deleting FB is meaningless since all of your data is already stored on the backups.
     
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    Anything you post on the internet never ever goes away
     
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    Haven't used it in years. Barely ever did. I also agreed to the terms and conditions when I signed up.

    In any case, I have even less of a capability to remove my data from my government's servers as they are a Five Eyes nation.
     
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    I knew(suspected) this when flip phones came out. They can shut your car down or lock your house up. They can do almost anything they want, if you have enough techy crap.
     
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    Good news is it is only a matter of time until an emp from oour star wipes the slate clean . That will kill the orwellian national security state for awhile.

    What will our elites do when they are no longer protected from the dirtied masses ?
     
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    You blame Bush for the Democrats abusing the process???? That's ridiculous.
     
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    The Bush/Cheney regime SET UP the process AND abused it!

    FACTS matter!
     
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    :confuse: " We know who you are , and we see what you do ..." `:eekeyes:
     
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    Collecting such data - without express acknowledged consent from the person - should be illegal. Nor should any product that collects such data be allowed for sale - that does not have the ability for the user to disable that function.
     
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    You are probably correct but, that does not change the fact that our intelligence agencies (aka-Big Gov't) have access to this information.

    Not sure how the deep state fits into this conversation but - your claim that the Establishment (aka - deep state) does not exist is preposterous nonsense.


    Exactly - just as the Red Establishment -in conjunction with Blue Establishment - created the Patriot Act - enabling our Gov't to violate essential liberty with respect to privacy.

    Obama then changed the name of the act - which made it our "Patriotic Duty" to trade essential liberty for security - to the "Freedom Act".

    This is a dangerous amount of power with respect to corporations but far more dangerous with respect to Gov't aka - Big Brother.
     
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    What are you talking about ? Of course the Establishment (Red and Blue) abused the process in the enactment of the Patriot Act - that was the first step in the process in enabling the domestic surveillance state.
     
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    The FISA Court spying proves the Obama administration did it. Now Prove Bush did.
     
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    It wasn't meant to be abused like the Obama administration abused it. Are you making excuses for what they did?
     
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    The Establishment is NOT the imaginary "Deep State". The Establishment is out in the open and everyone knows who they are. The imaginary "Deep State" is an asinine conspiracy theory that there is some organization of "illuminati" who "control everything" behind the scenes. It is nothing more than a modern version of the DEBUNKED "Protocols of the Elders of Zion".

    All it takes to DEBUNK the bovine excrement about the "Deep State" is look at the current incoherent pissing contest that is our current government of We the People. There is ZERO coordination or direction in the politics. It is farcical to believe that there is some imaginary "Deep State" organizing it.

    The CLOSEST you are going to get is the Wall Street Casino Banskters who give their orders for which legislation needs to be gutted to the Establishment of BOTH parties. Even there it is OPEN enough that we KNOW the NAMES of the lobbyists and the organizations they represent. It is open BRIBERY and CORRUPTION and it needs to be stopped but it is NOT some imaginary "Deep State" either.

    So pushing that "Deep State" bovine excrement only harms the credibility of those that believe it exists because it is on a par with Conspiracy Theories and we all know that the IMPOTUS is a YUUUUGE fan of that crap.
     
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    FISA has been around since the 1970's, dude!

    The Bush/Cheney regime BEGAN the ILLEGAL WARRANTLESS SURVEILANCE program after 9/11.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Surveillance_Program

     
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    It was Bush/Cheney that were abusing their powers!
     
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    About 5 years ago I heard that Facebook was eliminating all those accounts that had strange names to get rid of people using an alias And they were also supposedly getting rid of accounts that weren't used

    Now I have an account so oddly named that even people talking to it sometimes say they know it's an alias and I haven't even looked at it in 3 years. Yet it's still there

    My conclusion; yes they know everything about you, and relax, nobody cares.
     
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    If you want to protect your data and your info, don't put it out over networks that are all made up of computers and equipment you don't own or control.

    Expecting privacy on the internet and in the tech world is sort of like trying to yell to your neighbor 2 blocks away and not expecting anybody to hear you or remember what you said. Maybe some of your neighbors aren't listening. Maybe some heard you but don't care. Maybe some remembered what you said. Maybe some even wrote it down and put it in a filing cabinet.

    If you want to protect your data, cut out the middlemen. Visit a person instead of texting or calling. Visit your bank instead of using online apps. Pay with cash. Yes, the modern age makes these things much easier to do, and for some people, impossible to do without. But that changes nothing. We all know, or should know, what we're getting into when we use technology.
     
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