"Profiles in Corruption" Schweiser's new book

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  1. Heartburn

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    I think it is SOP in Washington and everyone has a finger in the pie. If the Bidens go down it will be like dominoes falling and who knows who will be left untouched. Nobody in Washington either side wants to trigger that.
     
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    because they didn't alter votes... they only placed ads on social media... ya know that place where superficial dingbats spill there guts while believing they're celebrities on 'almost tv'...

    i highly doubt that any of those superficial me folk were swayed to vote repub...
     
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    Right, because the one thing Orangeman really doesn't like is competition. (Actually that's a heartening viewpoint, at least you seem to think that a rapprochement is still possible )
     
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    In the anime story America is in two parts. There is the USA and there is "Imperial America" Imperial America is the major villain/antagonist in two arcs
     
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    The impeachment trial is not about what the Bidens did or have done it is about what the president did or has done.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I didn't know that.

    Whats an arc?
     
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    You're making assumptions about me. I'm not a Trump fan. I am a conservative, there is as much bad about Trump as there is good.
    But the current Democrats? They are flat out leftists who want full control of government and society . They are currently using their platform in congress and the media to spread outright lies about Trump and other Republicans in order to sway voters , inflame their base and in all ways misinform people.

    They lie about history, the present and the future. All in the name of control. This is heading towards a leftist dictatorship.
     
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    Uh huh, I'm not the only one making assumptions.

    Story Arc, a group of episodes with a common theme or themes. In a book it's the volumes.
     
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    Not entirely. Impeachment is about whether what the President did warrants removal from office.

    Clinton factually committed purjory, and his impeachment was about whether that crime warranted removal, not about whether he did it, because that wasn't disputed. The Senate (read jury) voted to essentially nullify the crime (a good call imo).

    Likewise, Trumps impeachment is about whether withholding aid warrants removal. Whether it was a crime or not is debatable, but that isn't ultimately isn't what we're asking the Senate to determine. We're asking them to vote on whether Trump should be removed for it or not.

    In that context, it may matter what Biden did, simply because it relates to whether Trump acted justifiably, at least as far as the Senate (and ultimately their constituents) percieve.

    If Senators think their constituents think an investigation into Biden was warranted, they'll not likely vote to remove Trump from office, lest they get voted out themselves in short order.
     
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    If an investigation was warranted there is a long-established procedure for doing that and asking a foreign President who may himself be in on whatever wrongdoing is being looked into makes no sense whatsoever. The FBI legally can and should covertly investigate crimes committed abroad as well as at home.

    Trump was clearly trying to illegally meddle in the election. That offense is one of the major reasons we HAVE the Impeachment process and thus it clearly warrants removal once he is convicted.

    To be honest, I don't want that to happen, as Pense would be far worse. But it is NECESSARY, or we may never be able to check a rogue President ever again.
     
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    Oh willya just STAWP slavishly believing Trump's conspiracies for even ONE minute? Whatever the Bidens may have done, and I know of NO evidence they did anything at all, it is nothing compared to what the Crook-In-Chief has been carrying on for the past 3 years and decades more going by all his campaign managers that are serving long jail sentences for crimes in that area right now. With all due respect, I gotta ask, just how gullible ARE conservatives with the lovable curmudgeon who is imprisoning refugee children and leaving our Allies to the tender mercies of the Turkish Army so he can build Trump Istanbul?
     
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    I'm not making any assumptions.. I'm taking what Democrats are saying.

    Taking my guns leads to tyranny
    Hate speech legislation leads to tyranny
    More taxes leads to Tyra
    More regulations leads to tyranny
    20 supreme court justices leads to tyranny
    Eliminating the electoral college leads to tyranny..

    The Democrats jus dont want to share power.
     
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    Thanks for the dose of reality. I keep forgetting how corrupt the GOP is and that the DNC is as pure as the driven snow.
     
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    Neither one is pure but the GOP is a LOT dirtier right now and getting worse by the day due to its top leader and his devotees.
     
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    This is why the rift will never heal. There are issues like healthcare that we could have a civil conversation about and look for improvements we could agree on. As long as one side has to be evil incarnate we will roll along with phony impeachment trials instead of working to get some things done. Trump reminds me of a bouncer in a bar I once frequented in my misspent youth. We all thought he was a wus till one night we saw him drag two grown men to the door and toss them out with a woman who was on his back every step of the way. That's the way Trump gets everything done, drags the opposition along kicking and screaming but he still gets it done. Mostly screaming.
     
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    I'm not nearly so worried about how much politicians have stolen. I am more angered about the money they earn from sending you to your death in illegal wars.
     
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    Thats up to the Senate now, and ultimately their constituents to hold them accountable for their decision.
     
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    A. WHAT does Trump get done? And as long as you are going to call the Impeachment "phony" then yes, the rift won't heal nor should it.

    You're dead right about the screaming. More than any other President I've even heard of Trump is a lot of sound and fury, Truly a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing
     
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    But that's what it is. a sham and attempted coup. Fortunately Trump is bouncer tough.
     
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    Not even remotely true, if Joe Biden was selling access to the whitehouse to a foreign country or company then that is completely relevant to the investigation, it would make Trumps actions 10000% correct and necessary, but no one on the left wants to admit how corrupt the Obama clown show was.
     
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    That's simply because the Obama administration wasn't corrupt. To use the Trumpster defense : Where is your evidence ? Any convictions ?

    Dirty Donnie had 7 convicted felons in his administration ( so far) and is shoveling all the federal cash that isn't nailed down into his businesses.
    I can't wait til all the state AG's get a crack at him.
     
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    The Bidens are notorious DC Swamp Creatures.

    “Mr. Biden, the youngest of the senator’s two sons, graduated from Yale Law School in 1996 and was hired later that year by the MBNA Corporation, the financial-services giant then based in the Bidens’ home state of Delaware. Mr. Biden quickly rose to be a senior vice president at MBNA before joining the Commerce Department.


    After he left the Commerce Department in 2001, he received a consulting contract to work on electronic commerce issues for MBNA. And he formed the law and lobbying firm with William C. Oldaker, a longtime Washington insider who has been a campaign adviser to Senator Biden and other Democratic leaders. Records show that Hunter Biden’s clients have paid the firm more than $2.8 million in fees over the last several years.”
    NEW YORK TIMES, Campaign Says Biden Son Dropped Lobbying Clients, By CHRISTOPHER DREW, SEPT. 13, 2008.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/13/us/politics/13resign.html
     
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    It is relevant to the Trump so-called investigation but not the one in the House of Representatives.
     
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    Your have to be kidding. Obama is a professional politician - from Chicago.

    “But his underwriting of the purchase of Obama's multimillion dollar Chicago mansion may have been the step too far which finally brought down Auchi's grand scheme of empire and intrigue. It was, however, cheap at the price to buy a putative United States Senator. Nothing boneheaded about that decision at all. What is a candidate worth? This was Chicago, after all. On the other hand, however, if Barack Obama becomes President of the United States, the sky may be the limit for Nadhmi Auchi.”
    ILLINOIS PAY TO PLAY, Mission Accomplished: Blago Joins Rezko in the Silence Chamber of Federal Prison, By Hugo Floriani, Investigative Reporter, 17 March, 2012.
    http://illinoispaytoplay.com/tag/obama/
     
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    Convictions does not equal evidence, just ask Beria. That's SOP of the Obamabots. Ignore any and all crimes simply because the mob that ran the government under Obama refused to indict. Perfect example of banana republic justice.
     
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