Proletariat? More like "Proneletariat", Change my Mind.

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  1. Ming the Merciless

    Ming the Merciless Newly Registered

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    Western leftist parties, particularly the Democrats in the US, are increasingly a "top-bottom" coalition of wealthy individuals and people collecting welfare. Even though the term proletariat, in the Marxist context, refers to people who are working class, it is today used as an identifier by the classes of people whom work the least. The irony of this is broadly appreciated by now and so I just want to suggest a new term.

    Without trying to call out any of the "purple-haired land-whales" whom have legitimate health problems, what we are seeing today is not so much a rising up of the proletariat as it is a rolling over of the "proneletariat". The armchair revolutionaries of the west could do with a lot more actual rising up and less talking about how other people should be rising up.

    Without a lot of tangible economic inequality to complain about (the US has a historically good economy and even poor people can often buy some version of any product they could possibly want), with self-inflicted diabetes and heart disease as the most chronic health problems, without wars they aren't fighting to moralize over, it should be no surprise that the western left has become obsessed with non-citizens; there's a chronic shortage of victims in America. Unfortunately, their Il-informed prescriptions betray a genuinely supine perspective. Sad!

    So, the American left has (for now, anyway) stopped talking about economics entirely. Why should they be calling themselves by a mostly 19th-century term meant for the working classes if they do the least working?
     
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    Excellent point. Though I think this is generally the case in communist-style revolutions. Monied elites mobilizing faux-intellectual do-nothings to revolt on behalf of the working class who are working too hard to voice their opinion, which generally is: leave me the F alone.
     
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    Both the Republican and Democratic parties in the US have always been pro-capitalism. That is to be expected. And there are people collecting benefits of welfare programs who are Republicans too.

    It is? Must be by very uninformed people. Actually I don't hear or see the word used at all.

    You might want to familiarize yourself with the Democratic Socialists of America.
    https://www.dsausa.org/

    I think you have it backward, but maybe I'm reading your poorly-written paragraph wrong.

    The economy isn't really so good for most of us though it's great for the rich. Wages are just starting to rise a teeny bit after 40 years, companies are working their employees harder after cutting positions to increase profits, healthcare is still a problem for many, part time jobs have multiplied with the downside of not offering employee benefits, and on and on.

    BTW, if "they do the least working", how can they afford to "buy some version of any product they could possibly want"?
     
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