Prolonged shutdown could leave millions without food stamps and hit small businesses

I don't like painting with the 'lazy' brush. While there are any number who may be 'lazy' there are many who have no clue as to how to improve their worth in the employment marketplace, mainly because no one ever bothered telling them they actually had to do something to maximize that worth.

The damage done to some of the newer generations because of the 'no-fail' mentality promoted by many parents and definitely the educational system, has removed critical thinking skills and even never tested common sense.

 

Exactly. So they don't need a handout they want a handout and will take it as long as it is being offered.

 

One would think that would be a well understood idea, but maybe it is not.

What I do understand from a number of associates and a couple of friends is a commonality between being broke at the end of every month and having a lot of stuff, is not staying on a tight budget and needing everything now, commonly bought on plastic.

I literally had a friend who's wife asked my wife if we could loan them some money because they couldn't afford to feed their family, I told my wife if she loans them a dime I will file for a divorce, I wouldn't, but tossed that out to make a point, they got nothing from us.

This same friend asked me one day if he could park his car at my house because he was having his parents over for dinner and they where going to hit up the parents for a loan, and he didn't want them to know he bought a new car, which was killing his budget.

Now this same friend when we would get together for dinner at my place a couple times a month would rib me for driving a six year old car and raising a family in a fourteen hundred square foot, two and a half bedroom, one bath home, one day I had a few to drink and blurted out "unlike you, I own my home and car" he quipped "you and the bank own your home," he was quickly corrected and I explained I lived in the home since when I bought it at eighteen years old and it was paid off years ago, I own it, no mortgage.

Not understanding that he asked why then didn't I sell the home and buy a bigger one like he had, it was then I realized some people cannot stop spending money and always need more stuff.

To that I would have to say maybe, my son is a millennial and when it comes to money he is tighter than a pair of handcuffs on a cop killer, he bought his first car cash and when it died he bought what was my most recent new car, which at the time was sixteen years old, he lives in a microscopic one bedroom apartment and puts a generous amount of his earnings into savings, versus spending it.

He has a few material things like some type of super computer for gaming and a huge TV, but that's about it.

Talking to him I'm discovering as a millennial, he is not all that unusual, from what he tells me many millennial's think owning lots of stuff is evil, their parents did it and they are rebelling against doing such.

 

Which analysts? There's no prospect of a global crisis.

The shares are dropping to a more realistic level. There is no crisis.

Trump is whining because the Fed is going to raise interest rates and slow the economy. It's an appropriate response to Trump's tax cuts overheating the economy.

Oh, geez--they're talking about slower growth, or even a recession. There's no prospect of a crisis.

Total nonsense.

What would you do about China's mercantilism?

Canada and Australia, to major resource economies, aren't freaking out. Why are you?

Saudi Arabia has lots of money and can easily stand to wait a couple of years for higher oil prices--and they are coming.

I think you should hold on to your day job and leave bond trading to people who know what they're talking about.

 

I can see you Trump supporters really care about Joe and Jane Average who live day-to-day because they lost their jobs to illegal immigrants. They should have been born into families with more money, huh?

 

That's a really dumb statement.

 

The usual high-income "have" Trump supporter line. I can see you really care about Joe and Jane American. I bet you supported Trump's attempt to take away their healthcare.

Maybe they'll fix our bridges because taxing to fix them is "theft."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/us/2018-structurally-deficient-bridges-trnd/index.html

 

You don't "do" sarcasm?

 

Yep--get those lazy 7-year-olds out there pickin' fruit.

 

And we don't need a wall eh?

 

House Democrats passed appropriation bills and Senate Republicans refused to bring the bills up for a vote because Trump said he wouldn't sign them. Trump and the Senate Republicans are responsible for the shutdown.

 

And yet when those Trump supporters suggest keeping the illegal immigrants out so Joe and Jane Average can keep their jobs, they get hammered for that too.

 

Where's the plan? We have the Blowhard-in-Chief experimenting with different types of walls. Would you hand over, say, $300,000 to some guy who promises to build you a "big, beautiful" house without showing you a plan? Even the Medieval types used moats to protect their walls. What does Trump plan to use in conjunction with a wall? We don't know because he doesn't say.

Do we need physical barriers? Sure. Walls? In some places.

We need a national ID modeled on the Nexus Pass that can be used to make sure employers only hire people entitled to work here, and that includes domestics and day labor. Anyone who hires an illegal gets fined, and lots of illegals get jail time. We can use physical barriers and other means as required, but the ID card is key.

American workers shouldn't have to compete against illegal immigrants for jobs. I don't care if illegals have low crime rates (they do).

Family reunification for legal immigrants? Yes--spouses and minor children as long as they don't have criminal records.

Illegals here now? I'm inclined toward generosity providing we get the national ID and smart border barriers that no doubt include wall-like structures in some areas.

 

Fer crissake, tell Fatso to open the government.

 

Oh?

https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/TSA-Transportation-Security-Administration-Salaries-E41347.htm

 

Tell us how much you Trump supporters care about Joe and Jane American.

 

You're looking for work?

 

Nancy is not that fat, but lies just like you do.

 

How about getting rid of right-to-work laws and prohibitions on secondary boycotts so that employees have leverage in negotiations with employers?

 

You're right, Pelosi isn't fat. This guy is...



Tell Fatso to tell Mitch to put the House Democrats' bills to vote.

 

I am one of Joe and Jane Americans, so I care very much, I dug my self out of poverty, which you probably never where part of, and unlike the MSM presentation of those people and yourself you will never understand what living in poverty is like.

 

And more slackers don't get fired, when they should be off the job.

 

I taught students living in poverty and was involved in programs to feed them before school. Seeing children coming to school hungry is compelling, but that's the way it is in this country.

Trump couldn't give a sh*t about them. Instead of taking care of them, he gave a 2% tax cut to people making a minimum of $420,000. Business tax cuts? Sure. Personal tax cuts for rich people? Not when we have a $1t deficit.

 

Government workers, government contractors, landlords (with mortgages and property taxes that need paying) of the previously mentioned aren't welfare queens and likely aren't ON welfare but are ruined financially by a prolonged shutdown. Try again.

 

That's up to the employer, no? Why should you or I have to work next to someone we don't like? Why shouldn't we be able to get together with other employees to negotiate with the employer? I'd let the employer say he won't sign a union contract.

Right-to-work laws are bullsh*t. Why can't we all quit en masse if we don't get what we want?