Prominent jewish anti-gun activist says that white people are the enemy, insults them

Meaning that they are disguising their political activism, and passing it off as being a religious issue, when it is indeed not. They cannot intellectually defend the policies they support, so instead they pretend that their religion demands such of them, and that they have no choice in the matter.

Which, again, does not in any way conclusively prove that it is their religion, and absolutely nothing else, that motivates them to hold such beliefs. You have presented nothing that amounts to evidence of anything. All you present is a hypothesis and supposition, but none of that is actual proof.

 

Funny how nobody will ever read what Rabbis show Torrah tells about defense.

Do not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor is actually a call to Arms, defend your neighbor.

Hence why Jewish neighborhoods have civilian security patrols ( Shomrim ) and ambulance units
( Hatzolah)

 

Which, once again, does not amount to actual proof that shows conclusively, beyond reasonable doubt, that it is their religion that leads them to hold such beliefs. In the course of all your posts in this thread, for all five pages, you have presented nothing that amounts to even one shred of proof. You have presented nothing more than supposition, and a poorly disguised hatred for members of the jewish faith. If you do not start presenting actual evidence, your posts will be reported for violating forum rules, as they add nothing of relevance or substance to the discussion.

 

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Maybe if Forum Poster could quote from the Talmud, it might sound like it is a convincing case for you. Jews are like every other religion - they read the same passages and come to different conclusions:

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/119539/what-judaism-says-about-weapons

I'd say that probably most Jewish people would support gun control.

 

You will never read about the Jews like me against Gun Control, unless you access the links I posted and read the blogs by many Pro Gun Jews, and there are many.

The Liberals posting nasty Antisemtic trash and saying most Jews are Anti Gun are not telling the complete truth or publishing full Torah opinion on self defense.

 

Read it.
Pro Gun views.

 

Did you find my link unbalanced or unfair?

 

The usual links presented in such are people with the usual Anti Gun agendas, one sided and present incomplete and biased views and information.

 

Usual link? Are you saying someone else cited it here?

 

You are only posting the views of Anti Gun Jews, and will NOT post the views of Jews like me that are Pro Gun !!!!

Every year many Jews celebrate a Holy festival called Purim, the book of Esther, how a man called Haman wanted to hang his enemy a Jew, Mordechai, and wanted to kill the rest of the Jews in that country.
They used weapons.

Arms help people to defend themselves, Arms restrictions and bans only sound good, they are not.

 

I can't say one way or another. One thing is for sure: a lot of gun owners who follow the political scenery see that Jewish organizations are disproportionately represented within liberal anti-gun lobbying organizations.

You have to blame it on something or somebody. Sorry, but I don't have a good answer for you.

 

I have the answer, lots of people have killed Jews out of hatred.
Defense is important.
A wolf will eat sheep, it is what a wolf does.
Psychopaths kill good people.
A defense is needed.

 

So do other non Jewish republicans. Your point?

 

Which, once again, means they are using their religion as an excuse to support their political views, which cannot withstand logical scrutiny. It is not evidence that their religion compels them to hold these views.

Do you have any actual proof that shows, conclusively, beyond reasonable doubt, that it is the jewish religion that compels these individuals to maintain the political views that they do, and that it cannot be anything else? Can you cite the specific teachings of the jewish faith that tell them to not possess firearms or any other weapons for any reason? Do you actually have anything?

 

Forum poster will only post Jews with Anti Gun views, the views posted on Chabad are not random or solitary internet posters.
It is unfair and dishonest to post only one point of view.

 

None of which amounts to actual proof. Pray tell, are you unfamiliar with the concept of proof, and how it works with regard to the law?

Yet again, do you have anything that shows, conclusively, beyond reasonable doubt, that it is the jewish religion that compels these individuals to maintain the political views that they do, and that it cannot be anything else? Can you cite the specific teachings of the jewish faith that tell them to not possess firearms or any other weapons for any reason? Are you able to present citations from their religious scriptures that lays out, in absolute terms, that they are to never possess weapons for any reason, and that they must make every effort possible to remove as many weapons as possible from society?

The concept of presenting proof is not rocket science. It is not that hard. Their teachings, the torah, is freely available online, and translated into the english language. Show us the citations of it that prove your case is factual, rather than hysterical.

 

Non factual Anti Semetic views
by Forum poster...
He only posts things by Anti Gun advocates.

 

The proof is in this long and informative thread, but you ignore it because it conflicts with your political beliefs.

 

I object to your Adolph Hitler-esque views.
You hate Jews and merely want others to hate Jews too.

So you are outed.

 

What do you think about the fact that a well-known jewish anti-gun activist and professor openly says that white people are the biggest enemies of gun control advocates? And that he calls these white people stupid rednecks (or "rural and relatively less educated", as he put it)?

What do you think about the fact that prominent jewish senators/congressmen push for gun control in America while supporting Israel's horrifying war crimes against Palestinians?

Am I a "neo-Nazi"/Hitler supporter if I ask these questions?

 

Yes.

 

A thread that is devoted to yourself exclusively, posting numerous conspiracy theories and outright hatred for the jewish religion, and exploiting the political positions of a few in an effort to try and paint a picture of the religion itself.

You will be asked once more, and only once more, to demonstrate the proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it is their religion and its teachings, that compels them to hold the political views that they hold, and not anything else. If you fail to do that, if you continue with this conspiratorial nonsense, you will be reported to the staff for your numerous, blatant violations of rule number two, which forbids attacking the character of an entire group of individuals.

Is that clear now? Are you now familiar with, and understanding of, how things are going to proceed from here on out? It is ultimately your participation on the forums that is at stake in this discussion. You can either comply with the forum rules that are in place, or go the route of numerous others who refused to abide with the agreed to terms of service.

Your position is no different than claiming that absolutely every single black person is a criminal, simply because some members of their race are known to engage in criminal behavior.

 

I have posted the proof, but unfortunately you don't seem interested in the facts. Now, why don't you answer the following questions:

 

What you have presented is not proof. It is not fact. It is hatred for the jewish religion.

What is thought on the matter, is that religion has not been demonstrated as being an integral aspect of why any politician does anything that they do. If you had anything beyond "this jew did this" or "this jew did that" you would have presented it before now, thus demonstrating you are presenting nothing but hatred. As such you are in violation of forum rules, and will be reported for such.

 

Here are some articles about a large amount of influential leaders in the jewish community who push for gun control:

Reform, Conservative rabbis: Step up gun control

“Our tradition teaches: ‘Do not stand idly by the blood of your neighbor’ (Leviticus 19:16),” said a statement Aug. 16 issued by Rabbi Julie Schonfeld, the executive vice president of the Conservative movement’s Rabbinical Assembly. “As people of faith, the Rabbinical Assembly unequivocally calls upon lawmakers to take all available measures, to ensure the safety of the public to limit the availability of guns and the permissibility of their concealment.”

http://www.timesofisrael.com/reform-conservative-rabbis-step-up-gun-control/


Jewish American Rabbis Join Gun Control Call

Leaders from the Reform, Conservative and Orthodox communities speak out; ‘Our worship of guns is a form of idolatry,’ says Rabbi David Saperstein.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/news/jewish-american-rabbis-join-gun-control-call-1.489194


Gun Violence Is a Moral Problem

By Rabbi Menachem Creditor

As a rabbi, I cry at the erasure of so much life. I have organized for, marched with, and amplified Everytown for Gun Safety, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Americans for Responsible Solutions, and the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. And yet, as a rabbi, I am enraged not at guns but at the casual violence afflicting our country, and the way we have grown immune to it. I do not accept the NRA’s claim that “guns are not the problem,” (…) My claim is that my fellow faith leaders can bridge the divide between gun owners and gun reform advocates. This is a moral crisis, and it requires a moral response.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-menachem-creditor/gun-violence-is-a-moral-problem_b_7096458.html


Two Rabbis Fight For Gun Control From Pulpit — and the Heart

The Newtown shooting ignited a wave of activism in the organized Jewish community, placing Jewish communal groups at the forefront of the battle for legislation that would limit the types of guns and ammunition sold to the public and mandate background checks of all gun buyers.

http://forward.com/news/191162/two-rabbis-fight-for-gun-control-from-pulpit-and/


In the wake of Orlando, rabbis call for action, not prayer, against gun violence

“I’m done composing prayers,” said the spiritual leader of Congregation Netivot Shalom in a late Monday night conversation after the end of Shavuot. Instead, he’s gearing up for a battle against the National Rifle Association, a 5 million-member nonprofit organization that advocates for gun rights. (…) Since its launch in January, Rabbis Against Gun Violence has grown to 1,100 members, some 850 of whom are American rabbis.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-the...l-for-action-not-prayer-against-gun-violence/


Rabbis preach gun control in nations capital

He said the nine rabbis will soon publish a book to be titled “Peace in Your Cities: Rabbis Against Gun Violence.”

http://www.jweekly.com/2013/02/01/rabbis-preach-gun-control-in-nations-capital/


Rabbi Pursues Gun Control as His Moral Cause

Specifically, as a leader of the faith-based coalition New Jersey Together, he was propounding its proposal that local mayors, gun retailers, firearms manufacturers and large buyers like the military sign a “covenant” of gun overhaul measures. Among its 30 points, the covenant called for voluntary limits on selling certain types of weapons and large-capacity magazines, sale of guns only through federally licensed dealers and mandatory safety classes for buyers. (Because the covenant was just announced on April 14, the process of getting signatures has not begun.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us/rabbi-pursues-gun-control-as-his-moral-cause.html