Thatr is a lie. Everyone can clearly see he answered He did anseer. What would get you laughed out is ignoring the answer as you are. Of course you would have been laughed out years ago after beiong crushed i9n every post which you have been.
The laser reflector IS ON the moon it is routinely used to measure the distance. The presence of the retro reflector absolyutely DESTROYS every claim you have made. Your answer does not address or explain how all of the people who tracked the mission to include the soviets cept the secret Sorry you are wrong. THOUSANDS wrere involved in trackig the mission by radio and radar and by telescope. Now explain why they would all lie The evidence uttterly proves you wrong and is crushing.
You are one of the most disgraceful lying trollers it has ever been my misfortune to get caught up with. From the moment I identified how you had inadvertently blown your own moronic claim out of the water, you have done everything in your feeble power to divert and obfuscate away from the actual salient points. I have attempted about a dozen times to get you to address your egregious blundering posts and each time you fail! Quite obviously something below the visible lid is making contact. It isn't the metallic corner you seem anally fixated on, but nor does it need to be. In a low gravity vacuum, a small force will cause what we see. It is almost certainly caused by the impact underneath! of the soft padding they used on the sample boxes. In none of my posts have I stated it was anything that your hopeless comprehension has determined! Now you piece of work:- There is such a thing as deductive reasoning and you seem to have a complete absence of this basic and easily acquired skill. From the video we can see a number of things:- There is a plethora of dust. It is clearly and obviously covering most of the visible area. This is not up for debate, the film maker actually insists on it. The lid for the sample container box is pushed shut. Again not up for debate, clearly visible. It impacts the box and there is a small disturbance in the near corner. Again not up for debate, clearly visible. A descending flat surface displaces air as it falls. Mainly in the direction of fall, but also to the sides. Similar to the draft from a closing door. Irrefutable and obvious. There is not the slightest movement or displacement of any of the dust opposite to the direction the lid is falling. Nothing whatsoever! In a vacuum, there would be no displaced air and subsequently no displaced dust. This is what is observed. In a vacuum and low gravity, any impact vibrations would exaggerate the movements observed. It is completely and irrefutably irrelevant which part of the lid impacts the box. We know it does impact because it stops! Any lid falling onto a box must cause an impact force and it must be from the underside. Now from the responses being received from this serial forum spammer we can also see a number of things:- Clearly he is diverting attention from the obvious lack of frontal air disturbance that is 100% unavoidable. He keeps referring to the underneath impact point not being highlighted when it is 100% obvious this is how the collision works. It must be the underneath striking! This dishonest person will never concede the absolute obvious, he will obfuscate and divert but will never admit his errors. The footage presented has now 100% irrefutably shown that the small segment highlighted must be in a vacuum. It almost certainly must also be in low gravity from the absurdly unnatural way the dust moves. The forum spammer has shot down in flames his own 15 years spammed claim! Further, since we now have proven that this sequence is in a vacuum, so must be the footage before and after this section. It's on the Moon.
Yes. I know. If the outside lip never touched the part of the surface where the dust was, it was making contact on the inside somewhere. In your earlier posts you seemed not to have noticed that the outside didn't make contact with the area where the dust was. You seemed to be saying that it did make impact and that's what made the dust shoot away. (post #24 ( p o s t # 2 4 8 )* http://www.politicalforum.com/index...apollo-landing.519410/page-10#post-1072141640 You seemed to have changed your story. That's why I keep asking you to tell what you see the outside doing when the cover comes to a stop. I see it stopping slightly above the area where the dust is. Just tell us what you see when the cover comes to a stop. An objective truth-seeker would have simply answered a long time ago. * As of now there's a smilie in place of the last digit and parinthesis. I can't make it go away.
Listen jackass: The underside impacted. There is your answer. I don't give a rat's ass what you think, what things seemed or what you actually think any of your horseshit means. You are not a truth seeker. I have attempted to get an honest response out of you and all you do is troll the same horseshit over and over. Now you piece of work:- There is such a thing as deductive reasoning and you seem to have a complete absence of this basic and easily acquired skill. From the video we can see a number of things:- There is a plethora of dust. It is clearly and obviously covering most of the visible area. This is not up for debate, the film maker actually insists on it. The lid for the sample container box is pushed shut. Again not up for debate, clearly visible. It impacts the box and there is a small disturbance in the near corner. Again not up for debate, clearly visible. A descending flat surface displaces air as it falls. Mainly in the direction of fall, but also to the sides. Similar to the draft from a closing door. Irrefutable and obvious. There is not the slightest movement or displacement of any of the dust opposite to the direction the lid is falling. Nothing whatsoever! In a vacuum, there would be no displaced air and subsequently no displaced dust. This is what is observed. In a vacuum and low gravity, any impact vibrations would exaggerate the movements observed. It is completely and irrefutably irrelevant which part of the lid impacts the box. We know it does impact because it stops! Any lid falling onto a box must cause an impact force and it must be from the underside. Now from the responses being received from this serial forum spammer we can also see a number of things:- Clearly he is diverting attention from the obvious lack of frontal air disturbance that is 100% unavoidable. He keeps referring to the underneath impact point not being highlighted when it is 100% obvious this is how the collision works. It must be the underneath striking! This dishonest person will never concede the absolute obvious, he will obfuscate and divert but will never admit his errors. The footage presented has now 100% irrefutably shown that the small segment highlighted must be in a vacuum. It almost certainly must also be in low gravity from the absurdly unnatural way the dust moves. The forum spammer has shot down in flames his own 15 years spammed claim! Further, since we now have proven that this sequence is in a vacuum, so must be the footage before and after this section. It's on the Moon.
I guess I'll have to try a different approach. This is from post #210. You seemed to be thinking that the cover actually made contact with the surface where the dust was when you said that. Am I wrong? Tell us what you were thinking when you made that post. Were you thinking that the lip of the cover made contact with the area where the dust shot out, or were you thinking that the lip of the cover came to a stop slightly above the surface where the dust was because the underside impacted with something? https://www.bitchute.com/video/eZramDBFkXRU/ https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...04A4E8C5DA0ED99E4BA404A&view=detail&FORM=VIRE (2:07:54 time mark) Remember that the viewers are watching and judging.
Yeah, try honesty! This is now getting absurd and I am genuinely starting to think you have real problems with understanding even the most simple things. I don't care about either of the following:- what things "seemed" to you. what surface impacted what other surface - it is completely irrelevant. You are not an "us" and nobody else seems to have issues with English comprehension. You must be some kind of simpleton to not understand what I have been saying:- The issue about contact points is an irrelevant spammed red herring. The falling flat surface creates a wake that predominantly shoots forward. There is some spill to the sides but very little compared to the front. Oh and forgive me for pointing this out jackass - but for 15 years you have been screaming about this effect from an astronaut "trotting by a flag"! NO DUST is disturbed to the front of the falling lid. You were judged to be the worst spammer on the internet many years ago. People take one look at your presence and usually laugh at you. You expect "the viewers" to believe that an astronaut is able to disturb a flag with spill from the sides of his wake, but that a lid closed with force does not move one single grain of visible dust? Is that what you expect the viewers to believe? Oh and this isn't your cue to spam it for the thousandth time in the middle of this debate, where you are getting publicly humiliated again. You also expect the viewers to believe that dust was only moved from air, at one tiny point to the side of this falling flat lid and not anywhere where there would be significantly more air expelled, with obviously lots of visible dust! You're busted and know it. You have absolutely nowhere to go. Well guess what, you are never burying this one. You have managed to expose a completely irrefutable piece of evidence that they are in a vacuum and on the Moon! You lose again. Viewers: A very simple experiment. Hold one hand level and bring the other arm with flat hand down, perpendicular to the first hand. Notice quite obviously that air is moved (do it faster, like the falling box lid - quite a hefty wave of air is displaced). Now do it sideways on - you will barely feel anything.
This response to a simple question would get you laughed out of the debating hall. Please actually answer the question. Were you thinking that the lip of the cover made contact with the area where the dust shot out, or were you thinking that the lip of the cover came to a stop slightly above the surface where the dust was because the underside impacted with something? It looks to me that you were thinking that the lip of the cover made contact with the surface where the dust was. Am I right?
No it would not. It is you who would be llaughed out of any debate hall. the question has been answered and your claims have all been proven wrong. The lunar Landings were real and the evidence crushes your claims
I doubt you are right about any single thing you ever claim. You are one of the most dishonest people I have ever encountered. You are absolutely terrified of facing up to your pitiful and terminal error and show no sign of ever coming to terms with your lifetime of failure. You will go to your grave being a dumb conspiracy theorist and hiding from anything that explains your clumsy and futile claims. You must be some kind of simpleton to not understand what I have been saying:- The issue about contact points is an irrelevant spammed red herring. The falling flat surface creates a wake that predominantly shoots forward. There is some spill to the sides but very little compared to the front. Oh and forgive me for pointing this out jackass - but for 15 years you have been screaming about this effect from an astronaut "trotting by a flag"! NO DUST is disturbed to the front of the falling lid. You were judged to be the worst spammer on the internet many years ago. People take one look at your presence and usually laugh at you. You expect "the viewers" to believe that an astronaut is able to disturb a flag with spill from the sides of his wake, but that a lid closed with force does not move one single grain of visible dust? Is that what you expect the viewers to believe? Oh and this isn't your cue to spam it for the thousandth time in the middle of this debate, where you are getting publicly humiliated again. You also expect the viewers to believe that dust was only moved from air, at one tiny point to the side of this falling flat lid and not anywhere where there would be significantly more air expelled, with obviously lots of visible dust! You're busted and know it. You have absolutely nowhere to go. Well guess what, you are never burying this one. You have managed to expose a completely irrefutable piece of evidence that they are in a vacuum and on the Moon! You lose again. Viewers: A very simple experiment. Hold one hand level and bring the other arm with flat hand down, perpendicular to the first hand. Notice quite obviously that air is moved (do it faster, like the falling box lid - quite a hefty wave of air is displaced). Now do it sideways on - you will barely feel anything.
Translation: When I made this post... (post #207) http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-apollo-landing.519410/page-9#post-1072084408 I hadn't noticed that the lip didn't fall far enough to make contact with the surface where the dust was. I thought it impacted with that surface so I tried to obfuscate this anomaly by saying that the impact caused the dust to shoot out. Now I know it didn't make contact with the area where the dust is so I'm in a pickle. I can't admit I was mistaken because my argument was based on that mistake. All I can do is try to muddy the waters and cause as much confusion as possible and hope the viewers don't notice.
Shameless troll is shameless troll. You're done spammer - I find it absolutely hilarious that after all these years of your moronic nonsense even you now know the game is up - you have no intent to own up to your 15 years of failed forum antics. You lost - you always lose. Once more for the evasive spammer:- I doubt you are right about any single thing you ever claim. You are one of the most dishonest people I have ever encountered. You are absolutely terrified of facing up to your pitiful and terminal error and show no sign of ever coming to terms with your lifetime of failure. You will go to your grave being a dumb conspiracy theorist and hiding from anything that explains your clumsy and futile claims. You must be some kind of simpleton to not understand what I have been saying:- The issue about contact points is an irrelevant spammed red herring. The falling flat surface creates a wake that predominantly shoots forward. There is some spill to the sides but very little compared to the front. Oh and forgive me for pointing this out jackass - but for 15 years you have been screaming about this effect from an astronaut "trotting by a flag"! NO DUST is disturbed to the front of the falling lid. You were judged to be the worst spammer on the internet many years ago. People take one look at your presence and usually laugh at you. You expect "the viewers" to believe that an astronaut is able to disturb a flag with spill from the sides of his wake, but that a lid closed with force does not move one single grain of visible dust? Is that what you expect the viewers to believe? Oh and this isn't your cue to spam it for the thousandth time in the middle of this debate, where you are getting publicly humiliated again. You also expect the viewers to believe that dust was only moved from air, at one tiny point to the side of this falling flat lid and not anywhere where there would be significantly more air expelled, with obviously lots of visible dust! You're busted and know it. You have absolutely nowhere to go. Well guess what, you are never burying this one. You have managed to expose a completely irrefutable piece of evidence that they are in a vacuum and on the Moon! You lose again. Viewers: A very simple experiment. Hold one hand level and bring the other arm with flat hand down, perpendicular to the first hand. Notice quite obviously that air is moved (do it faster, like the falling box lid - quite a hefty wave of air is displaced). Now do it sideways on - you will barely feel anything.
Attention Cosmored/Scott - answer please:- Did you do the experiment? Was there much air movement to the sides - where the target "puff" was ejected? Answer no. Was there massively more air movement straight ahead where not one single grain was moved from the whole area in front, completely covered in dust? Answer yes. The viewers await your concession spammer. You just proved they were on the Moon in a vacuum. Congratulations.
Please actually answer the question. When you made post # 207 were you thinking that the lip of the cover made contact with the area where the dust shot out, or were you thinking that the lip of the cover came to a stop slightly above the surface where the dust was because the underside impacted with something? You seem to be checkmated by this issue. Objective truth-seekers don't get checkmated. They modify their opinions when they are shown to be wrong. Your refusing to answer a simple question constitutes losing the debate. As I've told you a few times before, you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video. Black Knight Scene - Monty Python and the Holy Grail https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...7AFE6AB7C5A26A50C6A27AF&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
I doubt you are right about any single thing you ever claim. You are one of the most dishonest people I have ever encountered. You are absolutely terrified of facing up to your pitiful and terminal error and show no sign of ever coming to terms with your lifetime of failure. You will go to your grave being a dumb conspiracy theorist and hiding from anything that explains your clumsy and futile claims. You must be some kind of simpleton to not understand what I have been saying:- The issue about contact points is an irrelevant spammed red herring. The falling flat surface creates a wake that predominantly shoots forward. There is some spill to the sides but very little compared to the front. Oh and forgive me for pointing this out jackass - but for 15 years you have been screaming about this effect from an astronaut "trotting by a flag"! NO DUST is disturbed to the front of the falling lid. You were judged to be the worst spammer on the internet many years ago. People take one look at your presence and usually laugh at you. You expect "the viewers" to believe that an astronaut is able to disturb a flag with spill from the sides of his wake, but that a lid closed with force does not move one single grain of visible dust? Is that what you expect the viewers to believe? Oh and this isn't your cue to spam it for the thousandth time in the middle of this debate, where you are getting publicly humiliated again. You also expect the viewers to believe that dust was only moved from air, at one tiny point to the side of this falling flat lid and not anywhere where there would be significantly more air expelled, with obviously lots of visible dust! You're busted and know it. You have absolutely nowhere to go. Well guess what, you are never burying this one. You have managed to expose a completely irrefutable piece of evidence that they are in a vacuum and on the Moon! You lose again. Viewers: A very simple experiment. Hold one hand level and bring the other arm with flat hand down, perpendicular to the first hand. Notice quite obviously that air is moved (do it faster, like the falling box lid - quite a hefty wave of air is displaced). Now do it sideways on - you will barely feel anything.
I dealt with all of this on page #9. Now answer my question. When you made post # 207 were you thinking that the lip of the cover made contact with the area where the dust shot out, or were you thinking that the lip of the cover came to a stop slightly above the surface where the dust was because the underside impacted with something? You seemed to thinking that there was outside impact in post #205 too. http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-apollo-landing.519410/page-9#post-1072081844 This is a legitimate question. If it didn't have you checkmated, you wouldn't be playing down its importance and trying to avoid answering it. You seem to be checkmated. That means you lose the debate.
As I said on page #9, if the lip stopped falling slightly above the surface where the dust is all along the front, maybe there wasn't enough force to blow the dust away, if there was any dust there that is. On the corner where the dust shoots out, we can't see what's under the cover. Maybe there was something there that cause more pressure in that area. Maybe there was more dust outside where the corner fell.
No you did not you lying troll. The latter - jackass. But the main thing that occurred to me and anybody with a brain cell was that a falling flat surface expels air mainly in the direction of travel and would have made a massive and clearly visible disturbance of all that obvious dust! Debate? You lost this 15 years ago.
It sure took you a long time to answer. Here's post #205. http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-apollo-landing.519410/page-9#post-1072081844 This is from post #212. It looks to me like you saying that the physical impact made the dust shoot away. If you were thinking that the cover came to a stop slightly above the area where the dust was at the corner and that there was no physical impact, the above doesn't make sense. Can you explain this a little more clearly?
No spammer, it just took you long enough to understand. Asked a dozen times and answered. Can you explain how you are stupid enough not to know that a falling flat surface sends dust flying in the direction it moves in? Go put your head in a door and close it. You'll feel a big draft then hopefully an impact that will jar your brain into normality!
Anyone who reads the last few pages can see that you were refusing to answer. That's not what happens. American Moon (English Version) (2:07:16 time mark) When the cover falls and comes to a stop slightly above the area where the dust is, air is forced downward. It hits the area where the dust is and changes direction ninety degrees and the dust is blown with it. When I read posts # 205 and # 212, I understood that you were saying that the impact of the lower part of the cover with the area where the dust was caused the dust to shoot out. Your above explanation is very vague and doesn't explain how the cover coming to a stop slightly above the area where the dust is would make the dust shoot out in that direction. Please explain it a little more clearly.
No spammer. Firstly you aren't the voice for anybody but your incompetent self and secondly your diversionary crap was irrelevant when you raised it and every single time you repeated it by way of evasion. It is exactly what happens. You were busted the second you blundered upon this. You proved they were on the Moon. Congratulations. I suppose you can't help it. Not once in 15 years have you ever demonstrated the key things surrounding this. You are useless at physics. Hopeless. You are dishonest beyond words and now it seems delusional and blind as a bat. Why? You are not smart enough to swing a door open or waft your hand side on to the other one. You keep blundering on about the impact. The wall of air that you claim moves a flag doesn't move a single grain of dust directly in the path of the displaced air. You are busted spammer. Get a new hobby, one that doesn't involve your daily humiliation and the derision from all responders.
The above is the behavior of a checkmated sophist*. When sophists are checkmated in a debate, they go into a mode in which they try to muddy the waters and confuse the issue. They try to bury the part of the debate in which they're checkmated a few pages back and then they go on as if nothing had happened. The only way to thwart that tactic is to point out their exposed attempts at obfuscation on every page. * https://www.clubconspiracy.com/counter-intellegience-tricks-and-techniques-t4702.html
