Proof positive no plane flew over the Pentagon

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  1. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    It has been proposed by Scott that Flight 77 didn't fly into the Pentagon despite all the evidence Flight 77 impacted the Pentagon including physical evidence, DNA evidence, eyewitnesses, and the fact Flight 77 didn't turn up anywhere else.

    Here are the facts nobody denies:

    A plane approached the Pentagon at a high rate of speed.

    Something damaged the Pentagon with a big explosion with fire and smoke.

    Flight 77 is missing.

    So what does Scott claim happened? Well, he is not real sure, but here is the explanations he has given us so far:

    It could be explosives set up outside the Pentagon, but then it is impossible to explain the damage inside the Pentagon that is well documented and completely unlike anything explosives would do.

    It could be another plane following right behind Flight 77 that impacted the Pentagon right after firing missiles. But not one person reports two planes, radar images only show one plane, and the debris inside the Pentagon is from a 757, the FDR was from Flight 77, and all the bodies found were from Flight 77.

    No matter which explanation Scott uses, one fact remains clear in his mind; Flight 77 overflew the Pentagon.

    IF Flight 77 or any other plane flew OVER the Pentagon, especially at the speeds everyone agrees on, any explosion either before, during or after Flight 77 went over the pentagon would have the smoke follow wake of the departing plane. The wake left behind an airliner causes a huge amount of turbulence in the air and would have made the smoke from the explosion deform. Does any witness see this? No. Is it evident from any of the video footage? No.

    This is the first piece of hard evidence that no plane flew over the Pentagon as per Scott's claim.

    If Flight 77 or any other plane flew OVER the Pentagon, that plane would have flow over the following places which are usually full of people, yet NOT ONE WITNESS has ever stepped forward saying they saw anything unusual which would most definitely include a plane flying over the Pentagon. I am listing these in the order from closest to the Pentagon to the furthest away.

    The center of the Pentagon which is an open space with walkways and many visitors. Apparently on 9/11 it was completely abandoned.

    The plane would have flown in clear, unobstructed view of five different Pentagon parking lots. What are the odds not a single person was walking to or from their car on the morning of 9/11?

    The plane would have flown over one six lane highway, North Jefferson Davis Highway, and one major steet, North Boundary Channel Drive. Apparently no cars were present or they were all plants as Scott has tried to pretend.

    The plane would have flown over Columbia Island Marina, home to several hundred boats. Apparently nobody wanted to go boating on a fine September morning.

    The plane would have flown over another four lane highway, the George Washington Memorial Parkway.

    The plane would have flown over the Mount Vernon Trail. Obviously nobody would be outside walking on a clear September morning.

    The plane would have flown over the Potomac River in clear view of every boat currently on the river.

    The plane would have flown in clear view of three major bridges: the six lane Arlington Memorial Bridge, the 9 lane 395 / George Mason Memorial Bridge, and the four lane Arland D Williams Memorial Bridge.

    The plane would have flown over West Potomac park and it's eight baseball diamonds.

    The plane would have flown in clear view of the East Potomac Golf Course. Surely nobody would be out playing golf on a clear September morning right?

    The plane would have flown over the National Mall including the Lincoln memorial, the Reflecting Pool, the Vietnam War Veteran's Memorial, the Korean War Veteran's Memorial, the World War II Memorial, the Washington Monument, and the Smithsonian complex. Of course, Scott claims they closed down the National Mall on 9/11, but has absolutely zero evidence that this event happened even though it would take HOURS to clear out the park and all its attractions.

    The plane would have flown in clear view, if not over, the south lawn of the Whitehouse.

    At 500 miles an hour, the plane would have been over the Whitehouse in just over fourteen seconds. Assuming a ridiculous climb rate of 4500 FPM, the plane would be just over a thousand feet off the deck and screaming like a banshee. Think anyone WOULDN'T notice that?

    So what proof is there a plane flew over the Pentagon? So far, not one piece of evidence has been presented. Not ONE. We have Scott's opinion that the crash site doesn't look like what would happen if a 757 hit the Pentagon. Is Scott an expert in crash impact analysis? Not even close. But we're suppose to believe him over all the other evidence including the evidence his claims Flight 77 overflew the Pentagon are impossible.
     
  2. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    People can watch this video and decide for themselves.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvXVzdlcQk"]National Security Alert - Sensitive Information Part 1/8 - YouTube[/ame]
    (8 parts)

    Here's a summary of it for those who don't have time to watch it.
    http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2170

    They had control over the whole area. They knew it was going to happen so they could have easily made the preperations.
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=9632

    The crash site is not consistent with a 757 having hit it.
    http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ArticlesMeyer3March2006.html
    http://www.physics911.net/missingwings
    http://0911.voila.net/index1.htm
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88JQL4esHFg"]April Gallup - Was there a bomb in the Pentagon? - YouTube[/ame]

    The little wreckage that was there could have been planted before and/or after the crash.

    There are also people who say they saw the plane flying away after the explosion.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKbT9r-6IPQ"]New Documentary-The Pentagon Witnesses 6 of 9 - YouTube[/ame]


    Let's not forget about the blanant lies you people told on another thread.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/...onspiracy-theory-5-minutes-5.html#post4976475

    You misrepresented what was said in a video to mislead those viewers who don't have the time to watch the videos. When you did that you pretty much destroyed your credibility. It's clear that you're not truth-seekers. You are obfuscators.

    I've posted this before but it won't hurt to post it again.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4"]Psychologists help 9/11 truth deniers - YouTube[/ame]
    http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/dissonance.htm
     
  3. Hannibal

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    This is the only on topic thing you posted, and it is completely false. It's not even supported by the video you posted afterward.

    I defy you to name these "people".
     
  4. Patriot911

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    Scott, why is it all you can do is spam more nonsense videos?

    Why can't you address the topic of this thread? It is your claim. The LEAST you should be able to do is address the glaring and obvious flaws in your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theories. When are you going to stop posting (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up opinions instead of actual evidence?

    People want to know the truth. You're not giving them the truth. Why?
     
  5. DDave

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    Are you serious?? Do you have any idea how many people that would have involved?

    Does that sound logical at all to you?
     
  6. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    And yet not ONE person has ever mentioned that they closed the National Mall and other areas on 9/11 before anything even happened. :lol: The one thing I have to tip my hat to truthers over is that reality never really enters the equation for them.
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Looks like Scott finally saw the truth that his theories were impossible.
     
  8. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Since Scott is back, I'm hoping he can finally respond in some coherent way to the proof no plane flew over the Pentagon that he ran away from last time. Posting a canned video response that addresses nothing and is proven full of lies is a cowards way out, wouldn't everyone agree?
     
  9. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Scott, when are you going to respond to this?
     
  10. leftysergeant

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    The idiots at CIT can't even figure out where a plane would be based on where people were standing when they saw it. Nobody at the Navy Annex saw a plane pass to the north of them. They could not have, based on where the CIT morons said their witnesses were.
     
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    Ridicule and insulting....right on schedule. Way to keep control.
     
  12. l4zarus

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    CIT is "Citizen's Investigation Team", right? I remember a reference from this thread:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/9-11/226501-standard-evidense-2.html

    Did a cross reference a search with [JREF] and got this thread:

    http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=127586

    What a bunch of (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s, sorry, dooches. :roll:
     
  13. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    This post has been reported for insulting dooches everywhere!

    Now bands like The Silky Dooches are going to be forever tarnished by your smear campaign!

    For those of you with no sense of humor, this post is a joke. No report has been made. The Silky Dooches' reputation is untarnished. ;-)
     
  14. l4zarus

    l4zarus Member

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    Whew! Close call there!

    Edit: no fair. we don't have "phew" smilies :sniff:
     
  15. NAB

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    Guys........

    Isn't it supposed to be spelled (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)?

    Haha, foiled by the censor. Stick with dooche
     
  16. DDave

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    Yes the censorship here is terrible. NOTHING like that happens at the fountain of free flowing truth. :roll:
     
  17. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Nope...they filter shills over there. You're correct Sir.
     
  18. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    In otrher words they censor anyone who doesn't follow their whackadoodle claims.......nothing like this board...
     
  19. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    This boards filters truth in favor of propaganda. The other allows free and open discussion. Huge difference.
     
  20. Hannibal

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    Phil's board allows free and open discussion? You're kidding, right?
     
  21. DDave

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    Can you please give an example of the truth being filtered here?

    And while you're at it, please point me to a thread over there where free and open discussion was allowed without the moderators and owner attacking someone.
     
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    You're fooling yourself thinking that.....if that were true,I'd be still posting on phil's board,and not here....
     
  23. l4zarus

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    Which other board are you talking about? Because no way can it be Let's Troll Forums.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    That forum is the only major forum that openly discusses anything related to 9/11 that isn't confined to "official" guidelines. Say what you want about it but open discussion is the best way to find truth. The place has its problems with paranoia, and some nit wits aside, it presents a lot of good information.
     
  25. Hannibal

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    Such as?
     

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