Prove Flight 93 was a bunker buster

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  1. suede

    suede Banned

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    Then show me how it's done! ;)
     
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    Didn't you say this was off-topic and you weren't going to speak of it again?

    Since you've change you mind, maybe you should just tell us what happened when you called the coroners office. Unless this is a lame attempt to fish for reasons to complain to the mods...
     
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    Back on topic:

    Prove Flight 93 was a 'bunker buster'
     
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    It isn't about logic; it's about using Wally Miller.

    I wrote: "You're the one who tried to use Wally Miller to support your ideas."

    You replied: "Remind me."

    Ergo the link to you post.

    But thank you for admitting you tried to use Wally Miller in this thread. If the issue of contacting him is off topic them so was your post.



    I'm not sure what you mean. You mean in the truther video(s)?
     
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    I only use him when it can be proved what he did or said, unlike how some of you skeptics have used him based on your own opinions and assumptions.

    Do you agree with the explanation Miller recited of how 93 supposedly crashed?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you attempting to have a trial via internet forum?

    How odd.

    Why not just contact him and find out for yourself?
     
  9. suede

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    You spend so much of your time refuting "nonsense" theories from a movement that's "dead"?

    How odd.

    Find out what myself?
     
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    The answer to whatever question you think you should ask someone who was on the scene.
     
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    You assume he's actually looking for answers.
     
  12. suede

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    Truthers already have.

    It's you skeptic's turn now! ;)
     
  13. Hannibal

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    I already have.

    It's your turn, now.
     
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    We have, we have proof (that video).

    Where's your proof you have?
     
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    Right with the direct sources you have been provided, not a cherry picked yoo-toob video.
     
  16. suede

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    What???

    Can you make sense in your next post?
     
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    Truthers have provided proof they've contacted Shanksville witnesses.

    Skeptics haven't.
     
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    We did better, we provided direct contact info so people could ask directly.
     
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    [​IMG]

    Too much. Too much.
     
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    Prove Flight 93 was a 'bunker buster'
     
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    Evidence Summary: 10 Points

    1) The four hijackers purchased tickets under their own names and boarded the plane. One was randomly selected for and passed additional security screening. Ziad Jarrah was a licensed pilot and had recent training on professional large jet flight simulators. United flight 93 was scheduled to depart at 8:00 am, but left 42 minutes late due to airport traffic. Aboard were 33 passengers, 7 crew members, and 4 hijackers.

    2) Several passengers and crew called from the plane, spoke with loved ones, described the hijackers' attack, and related their plan to try to retake the plane so that it would not be used as a suicide weapon against a populated area. All but two of these calls were made using the plane's seatback Airfones.

    3) The cockpit voice recorder recorded the hijackers' attack and apparent murder of the pilots and a flight attendant. Air traffic controllers heard a radio transmission by a man with an Arabic accent, warning of a bomb on board. Passengers reported that one of the hijackers had what appeared to be a bomb strapped to him.

    4) After learning about the other attacks, passengers and cabin crew attempted to retake the cockpit but were apparently unable to gain entry. The sound of their attempts was recorded on the CVR. The CVR also recorded the hijackers' decision to end the flight, followed by repeated shouts of "Allahu Akbar!" ("God is greatest.") until the plane crashed. Families of victims heard the CVR recording.

    5) Flight 93 was tracked by radar until it went down.

    6) Many people in Pennsylvania saw the Boeing 757, traveling at low altitude and high speed, roll to the right and plummet upside-down, nose first, towards the ground. Many people witnessed the subsequent enormous explosion and fireball. Val McClatchey photographed the mushroom cloud.

    7) Hundreds of first responders (mostly volunteer firefighters) and crime scene investigators were quickly on the scene. They saw human remains, aircraft wreckage, personal effects, jet fuel, etc.
    The cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered and had usable data, all of which is consistent with the other evidence.

    8 The remains of every victim was positively identified. Somerset County Coroner Wallace Miller personally collected many remains and made 12 identifications through fingerprints and dental records. Personal effects of most passengers and crew were recovered and returned to their families.

    9) Hijacker identification documents and personal effects were recovered, along with the remains of four people identified as the hijackers through the process of elimination.

    10) Nearly all of the aircraft was recovered by professional investigators and by civilians. The debris was returned to United Airlines after being examined for evidence of explosives use.

    At Shanksville, which was by far the smallest of the three 9/11 crash scenes, over 1,100 people from 74 agencies and organizations worked at the scene. Including civilian volunteers, many of whom joined an organized effort to collect aircraft parts, the number of crash scene workers reaches well over 1,500.

    On 9/11 alone, these included: • 8 Police Departments • 7 EMS Services • 8 Fire Departments • 10 Emergency Management Agencies • NTSB • ATF • FBI • CISM • Red Cross • United Airlines

    Contact information for some flight 93 crash scene responders

    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co, Shanksville, PA 15560.

    Somerset County Emergency Services 100 East Union Street, Somerset, PA 15501

    Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management 12 Court House Square Greensburg, PA 15601

    Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg, PA 17101
     
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    Nonetheless you brought him up and it looks like a slimy dishonest tactic to pretend to have forgotten you brought him up in this thread.


    I assume you mean his explanation in truther videos like this;

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkYOk3zxf54"]9/11 : The Shanksville Files Vol II : Wally Miller [preview] - YouTube[/ame]

    00:35-1:05

    I see nothing wrong with Wally Miller's explanation here. It's consistent with all confirmed facts and photographs of the crash site.
     
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    Phone contacts(all public) for those who find snailmail a challenge:

    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co: (814) 267-4737

    Somerset County Emergency Services : non emergency(814) 445-1525
    toll free 1-800-362-5060

    Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management: 724-834-7007

    Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg: (717) 651-2201
     
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    Huh? :omg:

    Really?! :omg:

    Show us how it's done. ;)
     
  25. Hannibal

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    Already have, I've spoken with them. When will you?
     
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