Prove to me how Islam is not the most violent religion

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  1. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh and if you want to bring up christian examples..they have to be after the year 1900, capisce? Am i clear? Good!
    No examples from the middle ages as that is a pathetic defense
    Now prove it!
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    Do Christians killing other Christians count?

    I would think they should, given that the only way you can call Islam the most violent religion is if you count Muslims killing other Muslims.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Examples from the middle ages is not a pathetic defense "because you say so without qualification".

    During WW2 Catholic Croatia committed mass genocide (complete with forced conversions) on Orthodox and Jewish Serbs. Christian extremists in the US want the death penalty for the crime of homosexuality.

    Does this prove Christianity is more violent than Islam in today's world - NO - it doesn't. The question you posed however is not "what is the most violent religion at this point in time .. the question you posed was simply "what is the most violent religion".

    That Islam is the most violent religion today - says nothing about the future.

    To address the question one has to address the root cause ideologies which led to violence conducted in the name of Islam and Christianity in the past.
     
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    People use religion as a excuse to commit violence. Secularism has greatly tampered violence committed by Christians, and hopefully some time in the future that will also be the case for those who practice Islam.
     
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    The Holocaust.
     
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    Personally I say it is a cult. In fact a death cult since their answer to everything is to kill someone. Wittness how they stone women to death for some trivial action.
     
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    World War I
    World War II

    Pretty violent Christian on Christian nation activity there. Pretty big numbers. The Russian revolution pitted millions of Russian Orthodox christians against each other. Millions more killed. Not trying to say Muslims haven't had some pretty nasty years - but number wise - Christian nations may outpace them. And again, that's just since 1900.
     
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    Thread/

    are we going to get a summary by the OP of how the most wicked people are White European Christians, or is he chewing his fingers off in frustration?
     
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    i agree. White European Catholicism is a cult, all of those child abuse cases, an epidemic of apocalyptic proportions.
     
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    I wonder if the OP will try to declare that the Italy of Mussolini during WW II was not Christian? How many Christians died at the hands of Christians when Germany and Italy invaded France and Poland et al? Numbers range from about 60 - 75 million. The Iran-Iraq war took about 600,000 lives in comparison.

    World War I - a mostly Christian on Christian conflict - took about 16 million lives.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh I thought the German military was responsible for the holocaust but i guess it was Christianity as a whole instead? Wow i am truly enlightened. Id say more but im too busy choking on my words atbthe moment. oh and by the way..the horrible acts commited in the holocaust were not sanctioned in the bible as horible acts are permitted in the koran. BOOM!
     
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    Religion was not the driving factor behind either world war.
     
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    Well if that is what you think, then perhaps you need to look at history a bit more.

    Edit. Hint, look at the roots of antisemitism in Christian Europe.
     
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    So to be clear, by your standard, we cannot include any military forces made up Muslims in the calculations when determining if Islam is the most violent religion?
     
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    there are bad Muslims, just like there are bad Christians, most of each are good people

    "Muslim 9/11 first responder speaks out"

     
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    The German nation was very Christian at the time of both WW I and WW II.
    Italy was a very Christian nation in World War I.
    Spain under Franco was VERY Christian, yet hundreds of thousands were killed in partisan attacks.
    Irish terrorists bombing their Christian brothers. Pretty damn violent.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Awww..whats the matter..you mad that i wont let you equate Hitler to all of Christianity? Fine, you win! Take military out of the equations and tell me which governments jail and execute in the name of islam. What is the doninant religion of countries that jail peole for holding hands. What religion does sharia law apply too? I like your way better! Much easier to prove my point when you remove isis and alkaida from the Equation and ISLAM run governments are STILL the most violent and barbaric.
     
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    yep, those were some bad Christians... but again, doesn't represent all Christians
     
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    So am I allowed to include laws passed by governments that claim to be made up of moral Christians?

    Governments in Central and South America put women in prison for having miscarriages and do so because of their strong Christian faith.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No you cannot..none of those laws put religion in the mix...none of those laws say people can be beheaded for talking smack about Jesus..nope sorry..your point still fails..i admire your persistence though
     
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    both Christians and Muslims have a checkered past.... but most Christians and Muslims are not bad people
     
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    Ah, so then you are deliberately being hypocritical because you won’t hold a unified standard. Well, have fun with your mindless bigotry thread.
     
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    True, but then again Islamic atrocities do not represent all Muslims. IMHO the most violent religion in the last 120 years is State Shintoism especially if you looked at a per capita kill ratio. Interestingly the teachings of Shintoism do not really explain just how violent were the results.
     
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    Nice deflection but there is no christian law incorporated into moat governments but sharia law is incorporated into Muslim ones. ..its ok..your ignorance is forgiven
     

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