Psychologists "try" to help troughers deal with their 911 conspiracy denial

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I think this is a wonderful group of altruistic people that are trying to help troughers come to grip with the realities of the world we live in.

    [video=youtube;mEGgAk1AbA4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEGgAk1AbA4[/video]

    So the problem is; can troughers really be helped to come to grips with their fear or are these psychologists simply wasting their time trying to save the condemned?
     
  2. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Paranoia strikes deep http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2007/04/paranoia-strikes-deep.html
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yeh the video clip discusses conspiracy theory deniers cognitive dissonance when they find out they were lied to and the associated paranoia and fear that the gubbermint can not protect them.

    It seems they will do anything to protect the illusion.

    too bad, I feel sorry them.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You really are a pip, koko.

    Seems you and reality are no longer on speaking terms.
     
  5. cjm2003ca

    cjm2003ca Active Member

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    whats a trougher? or do you mean truthers?
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    YOu are mistaken, I'm not a trougher
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hilarious. Professor Griffin is mentioned in the video and he is considered by many the most respected leader of the 9/11 movement. Who better than a professor of theology.

    An interesting read debunking Griffin can be found here.

    https://sites.google.com/site/911guide/ryanmackey

     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    yes churches often deal with these types of social disorder on a larger scale
     
  9. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    The proof that it was an inside job is so clear that only people who haven't seen the proof could continue thinking it wasn't an inside job.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144746

    If people who see the proof still say it wasn't an inside job, they are either in denial, or are government disinfo agents.
     
  10. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    So EVERY SINGLE PERSON is in denial or is a government disinfo agent? I have yet to see your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) actually convince anyone of anything including your sanity.
     
  11. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    People experiencing cognitive dissonance believe one thing and say another.
    http://www.learningandteaching.info/learning/dissonance.htm

    They really know what the truth is. They just can't bring themselves to say it. A mother who maintains that Arab terrorists carried out the attacks after having seen the proof of an inside job will probably find an excuse for her son not to go fight in Iraq or Afganistan. A parant who hasn't seen the proof and genuinely believes that Arab terrorists carried out the attacks would probably be pround to have her son go fight in Iraq or Afganistan so it's a good idea to show the proof to Americans who are blinded by patriotism.

    It takes a long time to look at all of the proof so we have to show people the clearest proof that closes the whole case by itself.

    This video on building 7 is a good thing to show them.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

    This math proof that the craft that hit the Pentagon was too small to be a 757 is also a good thing to show people.
    http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm

    Then, they may secretly start looking at the other stuff later. I'd send them videos such as "Painful Deceptions", or "9/11 Mysteries" after having shown them the above stuff.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wkyEDIxTk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTuYGuOTcQ4

    This one is good to watch after having watched the above two.
    "What's The Truth?: How Indeed Did The Twin Towers Collapse"
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8989407671184881047

    If they still don't know that the US is an imperialist power, it would be a good idea to show them some stuff on that.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145531

    Once that is understood, the idea of 9/11 having been an inside job makes much more sense.

    If they don't seem know about disinfo, it would be a good idea to show them some stuff on that too.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYedTmaHt1A
     
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    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Yet to date you still haven't managed to convince a single person your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) is in any way true. How do you explain that cognative dissonance?
     
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    Everyone on the planet is 'in on it'. Everyone. (except the crackheads)
     
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    Well, seeing how the engine parts and wheel found at the Pentagon match a 757-200, I suppose that is just not good enough for truthers. It has to be something else because they just "know" it was or it just had to be planted by government agents posing as firemen.

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  15. Kokomojojo

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    wow kool where did they get them from?
     
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    The 757 that crashed into the pentagon
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Scott\FatFreddy88\Whatever other sock puppet you've made.

    I've already stated that no one believes your "argument ad youtubium." Youtube is NOT a source, and is NOT respected as such unless the information in the video can be verified by experts. Your random vids you found do not meet that criteria. If anyone is a disinfo agent, it is you. I say that because all you are is a linkbot trying to get anyone to read your crap.

    Also, again, you and your ilk are not worth disputing. Your arguments debunk themselves.
     
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    This is so self-evident that it's hardly worth mentioning but-

    Small plane parts can be planted before or after a crash. Therefore, small plane parts found at a crash site don't prove what kind of plane crashed. They also don't make clear evidence to the contrary go away. Here's some of the clear evidence to the contrary.

    The craft that hit the Pentagon was too small to be a 757.
    http://0911.voila.net/index4.htm

    The nose of the craft that hit the Pentago was not the nose of a 757.
    http://www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/blog/wp-content/images/pentagon1_plane.jpg

    The crash site is not consistent with a 757 having crashed there.
    http://www.physics911.net/missingwings
    http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ArticlesMeyer3March2006.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88JQL4esHFg

    None of the parts had the registration number of the 757.
    http://physics911.net/georgenelson/
    (excerpt)
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    In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft — and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight. That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers. Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling.
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    You pro-official version people have authoritative patronizing attitudes but what you're actually saying is pretty lame. Something lame said in an authoritative patronizing manner is still lame.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    prove it.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To whom?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    anyone who understands probate
     
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    Well, that leaves you out.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Probate has nothing to do with determining how a person died.

    Beyond that, each and every one of the judges that administered probate in the cases of the Pentagon deceased have already heard the cases for and accepted the deaths of those that were on the plane that crashed into the Pentagon.

    Whom else?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's plausible that you are an obese woman from Alaska that has 1.2 children, and a husband that has either left, or screws other woman on the side.

    Does plausibility make it true?
     

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