Puerto rico finnaly approved of being our 51 state does anyone have any objections?

I don't do you?


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/g...uerto-rico-on-congress-agenda/article/2628997


Puerto Rico is throwing a wrench into the mainland's politics.

The Caribbean island's government held a referendum on June 11 to gauge public support in what was the territory's fifth-ever plebiscite on statehood, and the vast majority of voters said yes.

Since then, Gov. Ricardo Rossello has led the charge in Congress, making regular trips to Washington, where he has lobbied lawmakers to take up the issue.

 

Why yes I do. PR is broke, all they want is for us to bail them out.

 

The federal government is also broke, if one assumes the national debt means anything at all.

So I don't see your point.

I would have no objections to statehood for PR.

 

Yeah, about that vote to become a state....

Unfortunately, there are 50 other states that don't want you. Bad news, I know. How about some tourism, instead?

 

It's even worse than that. We wanted them for decades, and they denied us while piling up debt. Now they want in, just to get that debt paid off, that they intentionally ran up. No thanks.

 

I'm not sure I understand that train of thought. We're broke, they're broke, let's all jump off a cliff together?

 

Oh good. I figured since we are adopting Mexico's population we might as well do the same for all financially challenged Hispanic nations. We have a big welfare state, we can handle it. Plus, apparently they help our economy.

 

Of course, it helps Team Democrat.

 

So long as they cannot secede.

 

So, now referendums are legit for redrawing borders? Huh.

 

Puerto Rico has been held off long enough. It's about time they became a state.

How did they get broke?

 

Why does PR want to join a sinking ship? They obviously don't understand what is happening. This isn't America anymore.

 

Of course not. It would mean 2 Democrat Senators plus Democrat House members and a welfare bottomless pit.

Name anything positive from doing so?

 

What about Pago Pago, American Samoa; Hagåtña,Territory of Guam; Saipan, Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands; San Juan, Charlotte Amalie, and United States Virgin Islands. Plus of course, the Palmyra Atoll, Baker Island, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Atoll, Kingman Reef, Midway Islands, Bajo Nuevo Bank, Navassa Island, Serranilla Bank and Wake Island

19 more states, counting Puerto Rico. 38 more Senators and 38 more House of Representative members.

But why stop there? I bet some Eastern European countries would like to be states of the United States, such as maybe Belarus, Bulgaria, Republic of Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia, and Ukraine.

We could then offer every impoverished region, state or country in Central America, South America, Africa and Asia to be states, and if done by district or region, have at least 100 more states and 200 more Senators and 600 more members of the house of Representatives, and 1,000,000,000 people on food stamps, welfare, medicare, medicaid and social security.

We could solve the Palestine problem by making it a state of the United States - or better yet 3 or 4 states for the different factions - 8 more senators and House members.

Since we urge regions within countries to break away and form their own micro countries, we could easily make that 500 new states with 1,000 new Senators and 2,000 new members of the House of Representatives.

If we could talk India into it and make each region a separate state, we could add another 100 Senators and at least 1,000 more House of Representative members, plus the enormous economic boom of 800,000,000 people living off the government.

Just how fantastic would be be to have 2,500 US Senators and 7,000 House of Representative members!

We could make them all members of NATO or SEATO too and defend them.

Remember, Nancy Pelosi explained how every welfare dollar creates $2 dollars, so we would become fabulously wealthy if 90+% of our new population lived on government "entitlements." Imagine the astronomical level of wealth we would have if we could get 2 BILLION people on American welfare as American citizens in new American states?

 

The problem is those in opposition boycotted the vote as they seen it as a rigged process. Only 23% of all eligible voters voted. The vote in no way represents what the majority of Puerto Ricans wants or desires. It was a way for the governor to get the vote he wanted.

I highly doubt congress will take up the issue. In the last referendum the voter turnout was 77%. Whether Puerto Rico becomes a state or not, I really don't care one way or the other. But before I would consider Puerto Rican statehood, the referendum would have to have a lot more than 23% voter participation. To me that referendum was a non-event.

 

The claim is made that few of the Puerto Ricans chose to vote, those who voted have passed some non binding vote.

Will the Congress actually want to make Puerto Rico a state when so few actually voted?

 

Few in Puerto Rico want statehood. Why let 23 percent rule the island?

 

Right now, a lot of the native Hawaiians want no part of being a state. We are essentially forcing them.

 

I never knew about this at all until I went to Maui on my honeymoon. I was flipping through channels one day and a "rebel" station came on with a bunch of long haired Hawaiians decked out in paramilitary style clothing, angrily ranting on about how they were going to take back the island from the US, how it was their ancestors land, etc. One Hawaiian guy was chasing people off of his land with a baseball bat as they were trying to go down the road to see a waterfall. I saw a lot of anti-American sentiment while there.

Years later, I sympathize with them.

 

I think you just gave several left-wing reasons.

 

It ain't gonna happen.

 

Why would the USA want to add another debt-ridden socialist failure to the union? We have enough of those already.

 

So because the federal government is already broke, that means it's a good idea to bring even more broke people into the USA?

 

Certainly not a good time to do this. I do think we should welcome them eventually, but we are facing issues in this country that will be compounded if they become a state now. IMHO they should push for independence if they can get their debt thing solved without completely relying on aid from the US or becoming a state.

I think if it does happen Republicans will have two more votes in the Senate.

California, Washington, Florida, Minnesota and Texas would have to give seats up in the House. Two states that tend to put Democrats in those seats will lose them to Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico tends to be very socially conservative. Even the Democrats there are pretty conservative and may have trouble getting totally on board with the Democrats from the mainland. The seat for the swing state Florida will be way more likely to be filled by a conservative than it is now. The seats lost by Minnesota and Texas will be likely filled by a conservative.

Over all the Republicans will get 2-3 more votes in the House and 2 in the Senate.

The federal government will need to find the money to pay off Puerto Rico's debt. We can not allow a state to go bankrupt. Add or own debt and unbalanced budget this is something I think we should not be pursuing or allowing right now.

The division in this country right now makes it a bad time to push this. I have not seen so much opposition to a President in my life time. I first thought it was rather bad for Bush43, then saw what was happening to Obama which I thought it would not get worse than that. Now it has. I guess I could include Nixon, but I was about 2 years old at the time. There is a tension in this country that should not be increased with this.