Purely academic discussion about gun control

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Ronstar, Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you don't understand government powers. The federal government doesn't have the power to ban or prevent you from buying a handgun due to the second amendment. This negative restriction on government does not suddenly disappear-nor does the government gain a power it never had-merely because you have just bought a gun
     
  2. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Of course it is. Liberty is the ability to do what you choose. Not being able to buy more than one handgun a month does deprive me of that ability to choose.
     
  3. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    REad for comprehension. He said that most guns used in California crimes were bought originally in California. Only California laws would influence that.
     
  4. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, not necessarily suffering harm, but it is a deprivation of liberty.
     
  5. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    And limiting me to buying one handgun a month does nothing to reduce the chances of criminals getting their hands on guns.
     
  6. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How can anyone propose any debate about guns and set aside the 2nd? That's pure folly. Its a weak attempt to 'normalize' people to an idea, ignore the Constitution, and discuss issues and find weak points that can be exploited without an amendment...
     
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    This is what people do when the hate the fact the Constitution prevents them from running roughshod over the rights of the people.
     
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  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because the USA is not the only nation on Earth.
     
  9. Rucker61

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    So you want to make the US like some other nation on Earth?
     
  10. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the thread is an academic discussion about what authority a society should have regarding guns
     
  11. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    How does a society have authority over anything?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    society decides what rights a person has
     
  13. Rucker61

    Rucker61 Well-Known Member

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    That worked well in the Third Reich, didn't it. I don't trust "society".
     
  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry, but each society decides for themselves what rights people have.

    such a concept is older than time
     
  15. perdidochas

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    That's a very unAmerican concept. Our revolution and our current government are based on the idea of rights given to us by our creator, not by a group of people.

    http://www.ushistory.org/declaration/document/
    To quote the first part of the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence:
     
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    Factually incorrect. If such were indeed the case, the homosexual community would have been killed off and rendered extinct decades ago, as every last homosexual individual would have been purged from the united states until none remained.
     
  17. An Taibhse

    An Taibhse Well-Known Member

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    Does it now? And how does it do that?
     
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    This is a riot.
     
  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    by passing laws
     
  20. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    one may think and dream that we have a natural right to own a toaster, but if society says no, then you don't.
     

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