Putin allowed to stay in power past 2024

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  1. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Are you actually denying we have had people putting posts on here that either denied the Holocaust outright or tried to mitigate it in some way?

    Hell there was a post just the other day by someone telling what a great guy Hitler was.
     
  2. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    What propaganda? I've studied Russian history and I believe a peaceful, stable world requires the extinction of the Russian state as we know it. Not genocide of course. But reduced to a shadow of its former and current state.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    You might have studied Russian history, but it was through the lens of Cold War propaganda and rhetoric, with the typical resultant arrogance of a Pentagon propagandist.
     
  4. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    On what basis do you make that claim?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thousands died when Clinton bombed Yugoslavia on false premises - something that was proven later. Milochevik spent years in jail and was ready to go to trial to prove his innocence when they killed him. That was proven in an autopsy after his death.

    Assassinations and murders are Washington's tools, which is probably why they blame Russia and Vladimir Putin for everything and anything. It's either a projection of what Washington does, or it's deliberate to cover up their own actions. The deceit, hypocrisy and inhumanity is unbelievable.

    In a trial held after Miloshevik's death, it turned out that he was innocent of all crimes. Of course it wasn't mentioned in any of the media - heaven forbid they let the American people know.

    Here's the cover of Newsweek demonizing Miloshevik before we bombed. This is the reason Putin began building up Russia's military arsenal.

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    The precedent that Putin created will create lots of security issues worldwide and for the Russians and other people living in the republic. Might not be now, and you cant see or foresee it, but try imagining the next neoPutin in charge. Or the next one. Each for a lifetime. Each doing the same or more like Putin.

    In the aftermath of the USSR, Putin could have really gone down in history as the one which really delivered freedom to Russia, but he is no different than booktext dictators.

    Maybe he will during his 8th presidency?

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  7. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Prove it. By linking to an unbiased source please. And please don't go on carping about how Miloshevik was supposedly protecting "Christians" (i.e. members of the Eastern Orthodox Church) as I don't give a damn about them, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, or Buddhists.
     
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    You don't give a damn about just about everybody.
     
  9. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    So..?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you are doubling down on your own vomit - I never denied anything of the sort.

    This is about the person your nonsensical post was to - who was not denying the Holocaust - yet you accused him of this.. just like you are falsely accusing me now -

    What a joke.
     
  11. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    "Jazz" in post #126 posted about how literally "Hitler was one of the good guys"!!!

    Do you deny this? Do you deny that even if not mentioned directly it is effectively Holocaust denialism and Nazi apologism?

    Don't know how you could read it any other way.
     
  12. Jazz

    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Dear zerOlis, you are right... I like Putin despite him being a Russian. He seems more of a decent statesman in comparison with his American counterparts. The Americans, the world's policemen, are drunk on destruction of lesser countries, as they have been doing since WWII, and in particular for the past 19 years in the broader Middle East. Had Putin not interfered in Syria it would be like Libya by now.

    Are you proud of your country's achievements? You have not been on the recipients' end to know what it feels like to be the loser and treated accordingly. Your country loves to torture! [​IMG]

    And your country's leaders are shameless liars. Wherever they go they create chaos!

    Read this article

    Which target after Syria?
    Mar. 10, 2020


    Excerpts:
    The war never stopped in Afghanistan or Iraq, but it took five years for President Obama to open new theaters of operation: Libya (2011), Syria (2012) and Yemen (2015).
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    Colonel Ralph Peters, who in 2001 revealed the Pentagon’s new strategy, published Admiral Cebrowski’s map of objectives in 2006. It showed that only Israel and Jordan would not be affected. All other countries in the "Broader Middle East" (i.e., from Morocco to Pakistan) would gradually be stateless and all major countries (including Saudi Arabia and Turkey) would disappear.
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    In 2013, the Pentagon adapted the "endless war" to the realities on the ground.
    Robin Wright published two corrective maps in the New York Times. The first dealt with the division of Libya, the second with the creation of a "Kurdistan" affecting only Syria and Iraq and sparing the eastern half of Turkey and Iran. It also announced the creation of a "Sunnistan" straddling Iraq and Syria, dividing Saudi Arabia into five and Yemen into two. This last operation began in 2015.
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    US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo pledged to curb the Pentagon’s appetites if Turkey helped the Pentagon restart the "endless war" in Libya. This country is divided into a thousand tribes that clash around two main leaders, both CIA agents, etc.

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article209439.html
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    Of course, Putin is portrayed by the Americans as the main villain who has to be contained. For now sanctions have to suffice until an opportunity opens up to really hurt or eliminate him. May that never happen!
     
  13. Dayton3

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    This from the guy here who gave us a long post about "Why Hitler was one of the good guys".

    And yes, I'm very proud of the achievements of the United States. The dwarf those of the accursed Russians. God willing we will utterly destroy the modern Russian state in the future. No genocide of course but reducing Russian territory to about twice the size of Germany only.
     
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    He listed some good qualities of Adolf - Everyone has them - Even Trump - You went from that - to calling him a holocaust denier.

    Now you are trying to defend your fallacious vomit because you cant seem to get the basics.
     
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    We...the US, won't need to try to hard to further destroy the so called "Resource Federation".....they'll do a fine job themselves....with high rates of HIV/AIDS, alcoholism, smoking, low birth rates, low life expectancy, out migration....wife beaters(Kremlin basically legalized it), krokodil users....list goes on. Many of these Asiatic creatures , I believe anyway, have a death wish. It's their inferiority complex that contributes to this.
     
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    I'm getting a little sick of you misquoting me and putting words in my mouth. When did I ever say that Miloshevik was protecting Christians? But this is not the first time you misquoted me, so either you're projecting or you have an agenda and are doing it deliberately. Regardless it makes you incapable of holding a intelligent conversation so I'm putting you on ignore.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I put him on ignore. He has some agenda and not worth the aggravation.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just because I call you and Dayton out on your BS and logical fallacy is no reason to get nasty - and continue your fallacious ways.
     
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    You're the one who constantly brings up the protection of the Eastern Orthodox "Christians"
     
  20. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    With the new constitution, there is no way that Russia can be touched by the West even if they did away with Putin, and it's probably freaking them out.
     
  21. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    But one day, when Russia has been reduced to only twice the size of Germany, no nuclear weapons, no navy, no Asian territory, a broken people, with nothing but fading memories of former greatness and even that will be gone in time.....
     
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    Ohhh, you don't "call me out"...I don't exactly get nasty ....I just call a spade for a spade. It's the tradesman in me. I don't sugarcoat anything.
     
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    Oh please....some piece of paper isn't going to help Russkis slow demise. Legislate away.....the rot continues.
     
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    I don't fawn over Putin - You can't seem to make a post without making a false accusation.

    You are the one that hates the founding principles - and thinks that ingesting Establishment propaganda is patriotic - and thinks that questioning authority is unamerican.
     
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    You you have not done anything other than make up falsehoods and attribute them to me - because you have no material :)
     

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