Putin is preparing to elect trump

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Seems to be a problem on the Democrat side! But I don't see the Dem on the hill giving a shlt, some of their best voters are the dead and the illegal Mexicans.. So what's their or your beef with one little Ol Putin :roll:
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    As if Trump doesnt fire everyone, every other day.


    Thats why hes there....
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    What's a long time, 2016 when Mr, Obatard reassured the leftist organization that Russia wasn't a factor and NOT a threat to our election process :thumbsup::rock_slayer:

    CUT IT OUT :)




    AND FINALLY STOP WHINING!
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Just a reminder....

    Adam Schiff says you cant trust the American people or the election.
     
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    Actually it's the new leftist legal system of injustice :)
     
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    Okay, you might be right. This may work as long as Pootin acts double intelligent than the Donald (which is not difficult). But only one mistake and Donald strikes back!
     
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    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Gimme a break. Trump acted quickly to the news that Congress was briefed on Russian activity. He fired the head of National Intelligence and replaced Maguire with a pal that knows nothing about intelligence. But, hey, he's loyal. Woof, woof.

    God save America.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The power of Putin to pedal propaganda in the US is very small in comparison to other forces that influence our elections - CNN being one of those groups.

    Putting Putin on par with the other groups - is like equivocating a rain drop to a hurricane.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Laughable nonsense. The ability of Putin to use Propaganda to influence our elections is miniscule by comparison to other groups that influence our elections.

    During the last election - Putin did the US electorate a favor by releasing the Truth about one of our candidates. The Truth is not propaganda - despite what the Orwellian state sponsored propaganda machine has been telling you.

    The propaganda machine told you - "Putin harmed our electoral process"

    How does the voter knowing the Truth about some candidate prior to the election - Harm our electoral process pray tell ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    From the State Sponsored Propaganda machine.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What nonsense. Of course it has been proven!
     
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    I have no use for a better candidate. I want a better President. And I can't think of anybody who is not right now a Trump loyalist who would be worse than Trump.
     
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    No! I most certainly will not!

    You think you will cleanse from your conscience the fact that you are accepting the intervention of a foreign nation by calling it "whining"?

    Just so you know now, before it's too late: once all this nonsense is history, you will wake up from this stupor, and realize how this creep is selling out our country. At that point, if you decided that anything any Democratic President does might be regarded as "abuse of power", you criticizing it would be pure hypocrisy.

    The moment to demonstrate patriotism is when it's not convenient. Not when it is.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What nonsense! This is like justifying a murder by saying that the ability of an individual murderer to kill people is minuscule compared to the mafia.

    Your statement is wrong, but irrelevant. The fact itself that this President is welcoming Putin to intervene in our election should be enraging every single patriotic American.

    Wake up! This isn't about partisanship. This is about your country!
     
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    Murder has nothing to do with the issue - we are talking influence in an election - and I did not justify anything. In fact I readily admin that foreign interests often try to influence the electoral process of Nations - Russia and the US included.

    The question here is one of "HARM" unlike Murder in which harm is present. Comparing release of information - to Murder - is abject nonsense.

    So to the question you avoided - How did the release of information about a candidate in our election - "HARM" our electoral process ?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Of course it has nothing to do with "the issue"! I'm comparing the reasoning. Amazing you didn't get such a simple parallel.

    It's a crime! If a robber is caught robbing a bank, they have committed a crime. Even if the bank received no damage. If a rapist attempts to rape somebody, but the victim escapes, they still committed a crime. This is why almost all our laws include the qualifier "or attempts to".

    I find it amazing that the Fox echo-chamber audience needs something as basic as this explained to them.

    No! That is most definitely not the question. Not for any patriotic American who values the Constitution and the laws.

    But to answer your irrelevant (as it pertains to my comment) question, it harmed our electoral system by leaving in question if the elected person won because of the intervention or because of the will of the people. Something that cannot be answered one way or the other with complete certainty. In that way undermining the whole process and the whole presidency.
     
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    Yep.

    He's paying each illegal alien $100 to vote for Trump that are being given driver's licenses in CA, NY and other places.
     
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    As usual - you default to demonization fallacy when you can't make a coherent argument. It is not a crime to release information in this nation - as per the constitution.

    You don't value the Constitution or the founding principles or the rule of law - who are you trying to kid.

    We are talking about the release of information - something protected by the constitution- something you clearly do not understand but then try to project your failings onto others.

    The release of this information did not harm our electoral process - it helped our electoral process by giving the voter information about the dirty deeds of one of the candidates. In your world, perhaps an informed electorate is a bad thing. I disagree.
     
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    What the hell are you talking about? "Release information"?

    Russia hacking the server of the DNC to benefit Donald Trump in his election bid is illegal. Why are you changing the subject? I don't even know what you're changing the subject to?

    I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about you. I have made no argument nor given any indication one way or another that I myself value or don't value the Constitution or the laws. I have not made a single comment to that effect either way. I am pointing out the indisputable fact that those who try to excuse Russian intervention in our elections most definitely show their lack of patriotism.

    And you don't dispute it. So looks like I'm right.

    No we're not. We're talking about Russia illegally intervening in our electoral process. How they did it is irrelevant in this part of the discussion. The fact is that they did. And that it's illegal. If you can't even accept that simple fact, there is no hope for you.

    Inspired in part by you repeating this nonsense, I created a thread where that is relevant. Not here, where the only thing that matters is the fact itself that Russia illegally intervened in 2016, and is preparing to illegally intervene in 2020

    This is the thread I'm referring to.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/or-attempts-to.568491/
     
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    Your obstenance does not make your case better nor does your reliance on obvious Russian disinformation.
     
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    Maybe the President can have someone pass on the message that after the election he'll have more flexibility?
     
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    This narrative was predicted since Trump rallies are drawing large numbers of people who didn't vote Republican in 2016. The panicked progressive fascists look out at their bench and they don't see a hitter. The DNC and their propaganda machine have to try to convince blacks and other Democrats not to vote for their only option. They think about as little of you as they do of voters who were right in 2016. In fact, they know we're not gullible enough to buy their bunk the way you are.
     
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    My guess is that Putin LOVES Bernie. After all, Sanders honeymooned there and Putin could easily control him because Bernie is already a true believer...

    Besides the Democrats already tried this failed tactic in 2016, but used their “insurance policy” to launch the Russian collusion hoax. There WAS collusion with Russia when Hillary paid Steele to get Russian lies about Trump known as the Steele dossier. Democrats are just dipping their corrupt hands into their dirty bags of tricks yet again. They haven’t done one thing to help the citizens of this country because they are totally consumed by and obsessed with Trump. He lives in their heads rent free. Get over it and move on...
     
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    If Putin really wants to control america, he needs to come here and make some anchor babies. No citizenship? No problem!
    The super clever dems will make a law saying people with licenses can vote and then make another law saying illegals can get licenses
     
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    Is that any way to talk to your late great Mr. Obatard!! I'm flabbergasted :shock::nod::nod::nod::nod::shock:

    And why you all up in my ass? I'm only presenting the bullshit Mr. Obatard told us, so now I'm/we're the bad guys?
     
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