Putin says Russians will 'go to Heaven as martyrs' in the event of a nuclear war as he would only us

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

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    • https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ussians-Heaven-martyrs-event-nuclear-war.html
    Russia is the freest and most peaceful country in the world. Therefore, all of humanity should rejoice when the Russians have new types of weapons.
    Because only the presence of powerful weapons from the Russians makes the world safe.
    Crazy in the White House and the Pentagon, as well as their vassals, could have started a nuclear apocalypse long ago, they do not hide this and in every Western media we see articles where the possibility of an attack on Russia is being considered. And only the presence of inevitable retaliation stops these madmen.

    What do you think about it?
     
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    In an alternative universe?
     
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    You write this only because you are overcome by envy. Germany was the cause of two world wars. Russia - created the world's first society of social justice. The first in the world atomic bomb created in the west. In Russia, the first NPP in the world was created. Even in matters of atomic energy, we can see who is the aggressor and who is the creator.

    And remember - envy is a mortal sin.
     
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    Russians are immortal and don't fear death.



    Moral of the story: don't mess with mother Russia. :oldman:
     
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    Nobody envies Russia and nobody considers your kin peacefull.

    You don't get to form an empire and have the landmass of Russia by being peaceful. I don't even know why am responding to your silly posts.

    I have read the interview from other sources, I consider very sad and concerning that a leader of a nuclear power is having this kind of rethoric. It's more sad that the population has no objection to Putin s words.

    About dying as martyrs, what about not dying for any country? What I am saying, russians are almost as patriotic as Americans so I know in advance the reply, it appears humans can never be freed from large scale tribalism and war.
     
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    Russia is NOT the freest or the most peaceful country in the world ... but it might the freest and most peaceful NUCLEAR county in the world.

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    Your excuses prove me right. Russia is the freest and most peaceful country in the world.
     
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    Did Putin convert to Islam?
     
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    So long as you do what the government tells you to do.
     
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    Orthodoxy teaches that if a person died protecting his homeland, he goes to heaven. Therefore, Russians are not afraid of death.
     
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    I think it is unbelievable that Russians would be stupid enough to believe this drivel.
     
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    You judge by yourself. Therefore, living in the fascist state of the United States, you transform your perception of the state apparatus into other countries. It seems to you that everywhere, just as you have the NSA, spying on your own citizens, the “Patriot Act”, torture, as in Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib, and a huge number of prisoners.

    But I assure you, there are actually not many countries like yours. USA and maybe several African dictatorships with cannibal presidents. The rest country is more democratic than yours. And Russia is the freest and most peaceful country in the world.
     
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    I'll just copy it.

     
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    You responded with more drivel?
     
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    Orthodoxy does not teach that. Orthodoxy and catholic are not different, and both does not teach that. How about you proove your claim?
     
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    Well if that's not a public message of saying if you attack us there will be mutual assured destruction on a global scale regarding salting the entire earth I don't know what it is but of course we have a bunch of elderly people like Mattis that control our military that still believe in the delusional fantasy that we're invincible or ordained by God as nation. [Pick your poison]

    At this point in my life I'm at the point where I find the post modern world completely disgusting where if everybody wants to nuke the entire world destroying all life on the planet as we know it I'll just say, have at it.

    If we can't live in a better world where we're force to settle or compromise with the course of this completely disgusting current one I say nuke the entire damn thing and be done with it.

    There's my two cents, I know, I'm crazy but......
     
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    John 15:13 "Greater love has no one than this, that one lay down his life for his friends. "
    Apparently you are a pagan or a Satanist and therefore do not know the Gospel.
     
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    I do not understand what you wrote. Write a literary language please.
     
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    I think the "in your face" propaganda you continually post might work on knuckle draggers and the ignorant, but I don't think you'll find many dumb or stupid people who will buy into that pile of steaming bullshit.

    BTW, anonymous martyrs are nothing more than disposable cattle.
     
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    “Christ is our God Who ordered us to pray for our offenders and to do good to them. He also said that no one of us can show greater love in life than he who gives his life for his friends (Jn. 15:3). That is why we generously endure offences caused us as private people. But in company we defend one another and give our lives in battle for our neighbours, so that you, having taken our fellows prisoners, could not imprison their souls together with their bodies by forcing them into renouncing their faith and into godless deeds. Our Christ-loving soldiers protect our Holy Church with arms in their hands. They safeguard the sovereign in whose sacred person they respect the image of the rule of the Heavenly King. They safeguard their land because with its fall the home authority will inevitably fall too and the evangelical faith will be shaken. These are precious pledges for which soldiers should fight to the last. And if they give their lives in battlefield, the Church will include them in the community of the holy martyrs and call them intercessors before God.”

    St. Cyril, sent out from Constantinople to preach, answering the questions of the Saracens as to why the Christians resist Islam.

    But not many people know that the tradition of the fathers equals scripture in Orthodoxy.
     
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    Russian retaliation isn't stopping the madmen of the world. Everyone with power has bunkers and they don't care how many of us die in a nuclear war.

    But Russia built bunkers for its civilians. That is a far more effective deterrence in this day where everyone has nukes. Whatever happens, Russia has some 40 million effectively un-nukable people. From a purely strategic point of view, that's a hell of a jump-start on civilization after nuclear oblivion. I hope the rest of the worlds nuclear powers take note of this strategy and start building more defense instead of offense.
     
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    It translates to Чушь
     
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    The big question is whether Putin will stand down and throw Iran under the bus when the US axis finally makes good on all it's threats to force real war on that country after the economic war it has already started.. Interesting times.....

    Also Ukraine's elections next year will be a big source of tension between Russia and the West.
     
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    The government is Putin. With a kleptocratic finger in every pie.
     
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    Oh good Lord! Where did you ever get the idea that Russia is the "freest and most peaceful country in the world"? If all Trump supporters think the way that you do, it would explain why you don't feel Russia meddling in our election was such a bad thing. I'm an older person (like Mattis) and have no 'fantasies' about what the United States is and it is most definitely not "invincible, ordained by God". I doubt there's very many people that are logical that believe that that Russia is in any way peaceful or free. If they do, then they haven't had any civics classes or read a book. Since I've had the time to digest this absurdly unintelligent statement, I'll respond.

    Let me begin with a 1st grade primer on Russia with a graphic illustration.
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    On to lesson #2 Russia oppression.

    Putin enjoys imprisoning prominent public leaders. Putin persecutes artists and even musicians whose expressive lyrics reflect poorly on Putin, like the members of the now infamous ***** Riot, who have been intimidated, arrested, and imprisoned. Russia’s new Criminal Code expands the definition of ‘treason’ to turn virtually any government critic into a “traitor”, so yes, if you speak openly in a negative way about Putin, you can be imprisoned for life and labeled a 'traitor'. Human rights defenders complaining about law enforcement misconduct have themselves been targeted, subject to harassment, death threats, enforced disappearances and murder. Increasing repression in Russia goes unchallenged. In other words, in Russia you can't express your opinion, you can't object to violations of human rights and you can vote...but your vote doesn't matter because the elections are all rigged to favor Putin. It's been recorded on video of government personnel stuffing ballot boxes with one after another election voting form with only one candidate name on the ballot, Vladimir Putin.

    Now about the real part, Russia's disregard for the sovereignty of other countries. Russian opposition lawmakers and investigative journalists are suspected to be assassinated while investigating corruption and alleged crimes conducted by state authorities or FSB: Sergei Yushenkov, Yuri Shchekochikhin, Alexander Litvinenko, Galina Starovoitova, Anna Politkovskaya, Paul Klebnikov. USA and UK intelligence services believe Russian government and secret services are behind at least fourteen targeted killings on British soil.

    Freedom of movement in Russia; More than four million employees tied to the military and security services were banned from traveling abroad under rules issued during 2014. Freedom of the press: Russia is 147th place in the World Press Freedom Index (from a list of 168 countries).

    Racism and xenophobia: The main communities targeted by xenophobia are the Jewish community, groups originating from the Caucasus, migrants and foreigners. LGBT rights in Russia: Neither same-sex marriages nor civil unions of same-sex couples are allowed in Russia.

    Homophobic rhetoric, including by officials, and rising homophobic violence accompanied debate about these laws. Three homophobic murders were reported in various regions of Russia in May 2013. Vigilante groups, consisting of radical nationalists, and neo-Nazis, lure men or boys to meetings, accuse them of being gay, humiliate and beat them, and post videos of the proceedings on social media.

    Disabled and children's rights: Currently, an estimated 2 million children live in Russian orphanages, with another 4 million children on the streets.[210] According to a 1998 Human Rights Watch report, "Russian children are abandoned to the state at a rate of 113,000 a year for the past two years, up dramatically from 67,286 in 1992. Of a total of more than 600,000 children classified as being 'without parental care,' as many as one-third reside in institutions, while the rest are placed with a variety of guardians. From the moment the state assumes their care, orphans in Russia – of whom 95 percent still have a living parent – are exposed to shocking levels of cruelty and neglect."

    Human trafficking in Russia: The end of communism and collapse of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia has contributed to an increase in human trafficking, with the majority of victims being women forced into prostitution.Russia is a country of origin for persons, primarily women and children, trafficked for the purpose of sexual exploitation.

    Lastly there was this, the annexation of Crimea by the Russian Federation. Yep, Putin just took Crimea from the Ukraine.

    If you believe what you posted then you really should move to Russia, I would encourage it if you're not already living there. If you are, then good luck to you.
     
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