Putin's greatest warning to the West yet: Russia unveils first image of its Satan 2 s

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  1. Jazz

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    I'm glad Putin has this gigantic weapon. It is a good deterrent and will hopefully stop the West from starting a war with Russia.
    The Russians suffered terribly during WWII and know what it feels like. In contrast, Americans enriched themselves on it. They have never had a devastating war on their on turf, except their own little quarrels. For some reason or a feeling, I trust Putin more than the hawks in Washington and Tel Aviv. They seem to constantly be looking which country next to destroy.
    That's why, if I was an American, I would vote for Trump. He respects Putin and wants to get along with him, meaning no WWII. THAT is important to me!
     
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    Nah, Hillary Clinton's repeated promise to go to war against Russia has such as Biden and certain Generals assuring that we will easily kick Russia's ass because they don't have aircraft carriers like we do. That's why Hillary Clinton - for a fee - has sold Russia as much as 50% of our uranium because nuclear weapons are irrelevant. What matters is aircraft carriers. Plus who is better at computer cyber war. Nuclear weapons have nothing to do with war in any real way and Clinton and her people know this by their vast experience.

    Afterall, Hilary Clinton would be THE most qualified person ever to be commander in chief. Just ask President Obama, whom only Hillary Clinton can surpass in military expertise.

    It is indisputable fact that presidents Eisenhower, Sherman, Washington, T. Roosevelt, and Jackson didn't know squat about fighting and winning wars compared to the vast military experience of Hillary Clinton as demonstrated by her tactical brilliance in Libya, Iraq and Syria
    . This thing about Russian missiles is irrelevant to the topic of war. Hillary Clinton is much smarter than be diverted from war with Russia just because Russia has 3,000+ nuclear missiles. We have aircraft carriers. Therefore we not only will defeat Russia, but within days and no American casualties.
     
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    Putin's bravado is for domestic consumption. The US doesn't care about Russia... and are NOT a threat to Russia.
     
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    Lmao....the US doesn't care about Russia. Yet that's all Hillary and her team are worried about. The Russians releasing her emails.

    Of course, we didn't think you would stick to reality.
     
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    After the USSR fell, Cold War records were very revealing. On more than one occasion (Cuban missile crisis and Berlin blockage), top generals in the USA military were urging a massive first strike nuclear attack against Russia. Overall, the USA had many first total nuclear strike plans against the USSR/Russia with various triggers for doing so.

    Russia had no first strike plans but was aware the USA did. We learned our analysis of Russian's plans were essentially 100% wrong - and we had vastly under-estimated Russia's capabilities. Russia's plans were entirely contingencies for nuclear counter strike, not first strike. The most significant error we made was where we believed Russian missile submarines were at. Russia was using lesser older submarines to flank the USA coasts, using prop-sounds to convince us these were their ballistic missile submarines and we believed we could take out Russians missile submarines as part of our first strike plans, leaving Russia without a nuclear retaliation capability as we also believed we could take out their ground missile sites and bombers in our first strike. For the most part, they actually were old diesel-electric attack submarines. Their retaliatory missile force was literally on the other side of the world from where we thought they were, undetected and diverse.

    We also learned that while our missiles were somewhat more precise, USSR warheads were massively bigger. Our first strike tactic was to take out Russian military and missile locations with very precise limited yield weapons, avoiding cities, figuring Russia/USSR then would have to surrender since we would also have taken out their submarines and Russia would surrender to save their cities and civilians. Russia's counter strike tactic was based upon our missiles largely were already launched, for which they would hit all US population areas with THOUSANDS of massive air-burst nuclear weapons. For this, precision didn't matter.

    Our first strike tactics were always to take out Russia's military forcing Russia to surrender to save their civilian population. Russia's retaliatory plans were exactly the opposite - to kill every American with mega size and notably dirty bombs turning the USA into a radioactive dead wasteland for 10,000 years.

    These two views have never changed. We still plan on very precise targeting. Russia still plans retaliation by total land area devastation. The frightening part is people in our military and among civilians - such as Hilary Clinton - actually believe in limited nuclear war - which then does allow first strike plans. Russia does not believe in limited warfare. It only believes in retaliatory total genocide warfare. This are most dangerously opposed perspectives, for which who is the danger of causing a nuclear holocaust is us, not Russia, because we believe we can win so therefore can start war with Russia. Russia does not believe it can win a war with the USA - rather only prepares to kill all of us in retaliation and make the USA uninhabitable thereafter.

    Hilary Clinton is the ONLY US presidential candidate to EVER advocate to initiate a war directly with Russia, literally promising to do so over Syria. She wants to renew the Cold War in toto - and actually believes she can do a tit-to-tat conventional war with Russia successfully as our conventional weaponry is superior. Putin has already stated he would retaliate against conventional forces with nuclear weapons. Despite this, Clinton continues to promise going to war against Russia.

    Clinton is a sociopath - always smiling and laughing at topics of rape and death. There is no war, attack or bombing she has not supported. No one as dangerous as her has run for president by a factor of 1000+.
     
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    That's not a reason to go to war. Do you have a direct quote or video of Hillary threatening Russia, or is that more Trump crap?
     
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    Russia has almost 30% of all the natural resources and the world can't survive without it. ..this is what is killing the new world order freaks. It is now the largest exporter of wheat as well as timber and just about everything else. ..and this is what the American corporations want. How can they control the world and impose their serfdom on humanity, when they are opposed by a very large and self sufficient entity like Russia?

    I think Washington should stop looking east and west, and start looking northwards towards Canada... after all they speak the same language and are culturally similar. They could impose their idiocies on them without a problem ...and let's face it they don't have nuclear arms. Besides that they also have boundless snow covered land, and Arctic waters and everything underneath as well, so what more would they want? :oldman:
     
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    Yes this rocket - 7 kilometers per second very quickly flies. If such to deliver in Kaliningrad, our European aggressive partners - won't manage even to blink an eye and they will see the Russian salute. The last in their life.
     
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    And nobody cares about your lying propaganda.
     
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    Margot is this the woman you want in charge of what you're going to see in the video below?



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    [video=youtube;VoI7KMJuQBw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoI7KMJuQBw[/video]
     
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    Uhhhh...see that's where you're misinformed...I live not far away from Canada..visited, hunted, travelled, etc..their media, economy, lifestyle, is about 80% owned by USA...so "imposing ourselves", is a misnomer..can't impose much when it's almost wholly owned,,lol:clapping:
     
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    Maybe Putin didn't like Hillary saying he was like Hitler. Could be he just wants to put a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)slap upside her head.
     
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    Why do you have to have your brain opened with a can opener and literally spoon fed every, single undisputed fact if it's against Hillary? I mean you literally would have to sit in your home in a total blackout with a sack over your head all day to NOT know that Clinton annnnd this administration have been ramping up on Russia for years both in Europe and the ME.

    The only even half arsed excuse any nut job supporter of hers can even hide behind is that she's just using warmonger rhetoric to get elected then will settle down after BUT that's an out and out lie. She hates Putin and as proven during her entire pathetic SoS career? Absolutely unwilling to bend.

    Go do your own tiny bit of research, common knowledge data no one has time to put a bib on you and talk slow for your self denial. Hit Google then, type things. Magic happens
     
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    Actually, in private Hillary said she opposes the development of low yield nukes.
     
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    It sure wouldn't be Donald Trump who was busy having bone spurs and lost out on gaining any military experience when the opportunity had presented itself to him.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous. The world is awash in oil that can be recovered more cheaply and efficiently than Russian costs.

    Perhaps Russia would prefer to eat their timber and wheat instead of selling it.

    I don't know what's wrong with you all.. You must have some hellacious inferiority complex.. always claiming somebody is out to get you.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Just post a video.. I hear a lot of sloppy talk but nothing from Hillary.
     
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    That's what a no-fly zone over Syria means. Syria has been in the Russian sphere by Syrian invitation for over half a century. It has a naval base, army base and air base in Syria. It is flying both civilian and military aircraft over Syrian - by invitation and permission of the Syrian government. The USA has NO permission from Syria to fly in Syrian airspace.

    A no-fly-zone means the USA invading Syrian airspace as it is doing and shooting down Russian civilian and military aircraft. This is no different than if Russia shot down American Airlines and Delta airliners, plus US military aircraft over Germany or France. Exactly the same. Promising to shoot down Russian aircraft over a county it has the government's permission to fly over is promising war. Who says so? Besides everyone knows it, the US general who said so in sworn testimony to Congress. When asked what shooting down a Russian aircraft over Syria would be, the general was blunt and direct: It would be "going war with Russia."
     
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    Is Putin looking to start a nuclear war? If not then what is there to worry about?
     
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    Great sarcasm, JakeJ. A Brownie point for you!!:smile:

    Mrs. Clinton is blinded by her ambition to become the first woman to lead a world empire!
    I just watched this video...

    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...DD7D1107ED3BFD59A574DD7D1107ED3BFD5&FORM=VIRE

    She badly lacks truthfulness, trustworthiness, integrity and a measure of decency and empathy for her victims. To behave like this over the gruesome death of Muammar Gaddafi...
    https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...5DE20CEFBB608BF7C7465DE20CEFBB608BF&FORM=VIRE
    is the lowest a woman can get. I am reviled by her behavior and blunt show of pride.
     
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    As Russia has many neighbors, Russia buys also cheap gas from them (for example in Turkmenistan) and sells to Europe. Directly without BIG superstate of Russia it won't turn out. We will kick all the a$s - according to international law, of course
     
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    What would conservatives do without their daily dose of fear porn? It's more important to them than bread and water. Today's missile photo should be a true feast for them. Feast ye, I say...
     
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    Thanks for explaining the two opposing tactics. I've never thought about it.
    Only recently did I learn that Hitler was against launching nuclear bombs on Germany's enemies... they were too gruesome, he felt.

    http://www.germanvictims.com/2016/0...banned-using-itthe-jews-stole-it-and-used-it/

    In contrast, the British and American bombers made mince meat out of the German population - no hesitation there. What was their reason for doing that?

    What would be the reason for the Americans to attack Russia? I don't know, can't see a reason.
    Russia, yes, it would have to defend itself.

    Looking at recent wars, say the last century, one cannot help but notice that people don't matter. It is o.k. they burn, suffocate, get shredded, beheaded, starve, freeze, get shot and tortured. How reckless the big wigs are to prove they got guts!! "WE came, we saw and he was dead, haha...!!" What was Ghadaffi's crime again?

    Or hanging Saddam! What did he do to deserve that?
    And now Assad has to go! Why? Americans don't like him? His people do, though.
    Don't you think Hillary is being advised by her husband, Bill? And since she is financed by Wallstreet and Soros, she has to consider the Zionists' wishes. We should ask ourselves, WHO has the most interest to defeat Russia and subsequently plunder it? The Oligarchs come to mind. They already almost had Russia in the bag a couple of decades ago. They must be itching now to revenge themselves on Putin for publicly shaming them and destroying their plans.
    I'm glad you have good sight and a clear mind. If only there were a lot more like you.
     
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    Gee, we're defenseless. Oh well, let's elect Trump and become allies with Russia.
     
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    Speaking as a wargamer, I WANT ONE!
    In games like 'Civilisation' it takes centuries to build up your stone age tribe into a vast technologically-advanced empire, and when I eventually begin launching nukes I immediately win the game by reducing enemy nations to scorched radioactive wastelands..:)
     
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    If you had any nous at all you'd vote to make that happen! You're gonna need Russia as an ally big-time in the foreseeable future.
     

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