Question about climate change

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Ronstar, Feb 27, 2019.

  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Funny.
    Oh, so now you agree that people who believe in man made CO2 levels causing global warming, are now worth quoting.
    Which is it. Do you believe in AGW or not ? I can’t tell. Now they’re experts on the economy according to you. Of course, we haven’t seen anything but your opinion.
     
  2. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ah, no it hasn’t. Physics is by definition, *the natural science that studies matter, its motion, and behavior through space and time, and that studies the related entities of energy and force.*
    We haven’t been studying the Big Bang since the Big Bang.
    Not only that, but we haven’t been able to understand the Big Bang since Newtonian physics gave way to Quantum mechanics, and that’s been in the last hundred years or so. . Physics is a science. Man is responsible for it.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2019
  3. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Telling.
     
  4. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That’s funny.
     
  5. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That’s more funny.
     
  6. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Still having seen a source that says NASA and anyone else who believes in AGW thinks the Green new deal is a bad thing.
     
  7. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not as funny as saying physics has been around as long as the Big Bang.
     
  8. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Science doesn’t work that way. It basis its findings on what is presently known. QT redefined a lot of things when all we knew was NP. Neither existed anywhere but in the mind of man.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2019
  9. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please enjoy the intricacies of your logic process.
     
  10. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Please enjoy the naivety of your lack of logic. There are no relevant science, educational and fact based institutions that agree with your illogic. . Name one.
     
  11. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There you go again.
     
  12. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Climate change is a bellwether issue. No institute of consequence, agrees with you. No one.
     
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2019
  13. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It’s a political construct of the Democratic Party which will only result in regressive economic harm to the west and further the world domination strategy of Communist China.
     
  14. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ha ha.
    A Chinese hoax right, Trump, err AFW ? So the Dems have that much influence ? Well, another reason to vote for Dems, in addition to actually being right. .
     
  15. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The comedy is growing.
     
  16. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And the lunatic and chief seems to be the ring master of his little minions, with advise of course from glue eating Steven Miller.
     
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2019
  17. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Too funny.
     
  18. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 2010
    Messages:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    1,345
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yup....a creepy glue eater in school...
     
  19. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Stop. I can’t stop laughing.
     
  20. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,156
    Likes Received:
    6,693
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Data acquired from the Ice Cores is limited as far as the many things that effect climate. Think of it as the Pepperoni on a supreme pizza, it has flavor on its own but does not define the whole pie.
     
  21. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    But the global warming alarmists claim that CO2 concentration is the knob which controls global average temperature. They base their entire agenda on that claim. But that claim is not supported by the natural historical data of the earth. In our present interglacial (the Holocene) there have been 9 warm periods (and subsequent cool periods) 6 of which have been warmer than our present warming period with no correlation at all to CO2 concentration.

    The only valid hockey stick is the one that shows spectacular increase in the human standard of living after the development of fossil fuels technology made energy available to all in a very cost effective and concentrated form. The global warming alarmists want to stop that progress.
     
  22. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,156
    Likes Received:
    6,693
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Actually that line is a denialist creation to do as you just did. Believers in the current crisis tend to understand that CO2 is but one part of this, albeit an easily noted and pointed out one. The level of concentration however, is not as troubling as the speed with which it has increased and the correlation with human activity as well as the lack of action against it and the corresponding continuing increase. Attention is now shifting to the Methane releases from permafrost and ocean sediments due to ocean warming and solar albedo effects.
    Your (and others) simplified and dumb downed version does nothing but allow you to spew learned talking points and distract from discussion.
     
  23. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    My post is reality. In half of the warming periods of the current Holocene interglacial period the rate of warming has been greater with again no correlation to CO2 concentration.

    No comments on the standard of living hockey stick noted.
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2019
  24. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    25,156
    Likes Received:
    6,693
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Okay....I agree, can we now discuss what is happening TODAY?
     
  25. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2014
    Messages:
    21,065
    Likes Received:
    3,423
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is happening today is a warming period similar to the preceding 10 warming periods in the Holocene. The current rate of temperature increase is lower than half of those warm periods. That’s what is happening today.
     

Share This Page