Question about climate change

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea what this silly little reference to a control knob means in your unfounded thought process. But noaa disses you ! ...
     
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    That is not what your link says. Look up the NOAA papers from Alley (2004) and Jouzel (2007). Then read "Inconvenient Facts" which is thoroughly referenced to many of the hundreds of scientific papers showing that there is no correlation with global heating or cooling in the natural history of the earth and that there is nothing different about the current warming period that we are currently experiencing in comparison with the other 10 warming periods of the Holocene.
     
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    That's telling. You and other alarmists are claiming that the reason that the earth is warming is directly related to the increase in CO2 concentration. That has never been the case in all of the earth's natural history. Claiming that global temperature can be increased by turning the CO2 control knob up to higher concentrations is not supportable by any data set.
     
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    Still waiting for a reference....
    You’ve been hanging around the same bloviators who know little about science. I know why temperatures rise and fall for reasons other then CO2, but at this point in our history, it’s most affected by it. I mean, we had to explain to you that AGW was rate of change and not just change, now you need more help.
     
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    Ha ha
    These simpleton little analogies may work with Fox blondes, but you need to address your comments to real scientists at AAAS, nasa and any university.
     
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    Ha ha
    Please. For the umpteenth time, climate change is not about the actual temperature. It’s about the rate of change as it affects the adaptability of species. Man, your unawareness is unbelievable.
    I knew you didn’t know how to read the graph !

    Do you know where the greatest change happens in the shortest time ?
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    Let's work on actual climate history and see what you can solve.

    We had massive ice covering North America. There were no Great Lakes, where they are was ice. A massive glacier.

    Your task since you love to speak of rate of change is
    1. What was the rate of change
    2. What caused the ice to melt off

    I am simply making it easy for you to show your brilliance.

    https://www.awesomemitten.com/how-the-great-lakes-were-formed/

     
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    They all know that what I’ve stated is true.
     
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    That is truly bizarre. And again no reference for the bogus graph.
     
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    Wow, I gave you an article from which it came from the AAAS that explained how the numbers were arrived at. I can’t help it if your doubling down on your inability to read it. So far, six references to your NONE. QuIz....TELL ME WHERE YOU FIND RATE OF CHANGE on a graph of a function.
     
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    Sure. The problem is, you have trouble explaining why it’s true. That may work when you're five years old, but just saying “ because I know it’s true” as a reason for validity gets you laughed at everywhere but in the presences of Trump.
     
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    I can’t help it if you don’t know how to read a graph.
     
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    Oh, how about I give you a quiz , maybe check your spelling. The head is about climate change. Take your little quizzes and....
     
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    The data is clear. In the entire natural history of the earth there is no correlation between human global temperature and CO2. Anyone who has studied climate history knows that. I’ve given the references to understand that. It’s up to you to do the homework.
     
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    Your history is quite clear, you know little about math or science. You just made a statement, and still no reference.
     
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    The references are up thread. Including NOAA papers.
     
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    What data ?
    Yada. There is no noaa article that agrees with you.
     
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    You mean this one.
    upload_2019-4-16_21-46-33.jpeg
     
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    The data from the references I gave you and many other peer reviewed scientific papers which include NOAA papers. Do your homework.
     
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    Ha ha..what a joke. Here, does this look like they agree with you ? upload_2019-4-16_22-0-26.jpeg
     
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    The earth was created in 1880 ?? BTW why did the earth cool from the Medieval Warm Period if CO2 was constant ?? Why did the earth warm peaking in the Medieval Warm Period which was warmer than today if CO2 was constant ?? Why did the other Holocene warming and cooling occur with constant CO2 ?? How can CO2 be claimed to be the primary driving force for current warming if it was not a factor in the Holocene and earlier natural history of the earth ??
     
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    Seriously. You don’t know the answers to all theses questions yet you pretend to be smarter then NASA and the aaas and noaa ?
     
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    Too funny. Do your homework. And then you will be able to answer those questions. NOAA is the source for some of the information.
     
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    No curiosity and initiative. Typical of of those who don’t care about the truth. Are you in the third grade ??
     
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    Probably. That won’t help you though. I could lend you the third grader encyclopedia to help you understand. It has pictures and everything.
     

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