YUP, I didn't destroy towns with a tornado or flood but it IS my RESPONSIBILITY as a CITIZEN to support my country( the people) as I would want them to do unto me if I have a disaster. Do not get personal, it really shows a failing argument (as if you needed help on that score ) Some people cannot provide for their children, not everyone is YOU ( thank goodness!!!!!!!) Decent people do NOT punish children for what their parents can or can't do....you want to do just that. Someone who seeks aid for their children doesn't hate children , what TWISTED thinking is that??? NO, you seem hateful to me because you want to punish children for what their parents do, that is quite cruel and heartless to me.
It's punishment when those that had nothing to do with the kids being produced are expected to do more for the kids than those that produced them. Feel free to support any of those leeches you want. I support the ones I produced and they are the ONLY ones to which I hold that responsibility. Interesting how you claim to care so much but do so little for them.
Whether or not someone is hit with a tornado isn't a choice. Having a child is. Poor comparison. That someone can't provide for the children THEY chose to have isn't my problem. Decent people don't expect others to do something to a level they won't do. Interesting how you view someone that supports his kids as a bad thing while thinking someone that won't do that is a good person. Someone that won't provide for their own children hates them.
FoxHastings said: ↑ We support those children whose fathers can't be found or have no money. Hey, I get it, you think children should be punished for what their parents did or do....I get it, it's appalling but I see what you're saying... NO where in the post of mine you quoted did I "admit the laws....don't work". So it's obvious you had no good reply and had to "imagine" things that weren't there. The law works well enough (as does any law) to make fathers pay for their kids.....but America doesn't abandon needy children..... I don't consider it punishment to support this country and it's citizens especially children....you do....too bad... I already acknowledged that you think aiding needy children is punishment... Ya but through your taxes you DO pay for them . Interesting how you acknowledge you don't care for children....Then you say something so silly...How TF do you know what I do for them? You don't. I gladly pay taxes to support America and Americans and you don't....why does "amount" count or even figure into it...(like your silly "1/4" comment, totally meaningless)
If you care as much for those children as you claim, why do you have to be told to help. Why aren't you voluntarily doing it? By paying the taxes to support someone else's children because they want makes me a better person than the pieces of **** that refuse to take care of their own. Just another example of my superiority to them.
. I didn't do that, that's just more of your little "imaginings" YOUR taxes pay for other's children If you use any infrastructure and/or public schools that would make your kids leeches....Taxes pay for all kids schooling.....does that hurt?
I pay the taxes that fund those things. The freeloaders you support being freeloaders don't. That I pay the taxes that support other people's kids is just another example of my superiority to them.
So? People who hate and denigrate the poor and loathe the idea of helping children and supporting their country aren't much better.....
I help children. MINE. They are the only one to which I owe it. Enabling a parent that won’t do for his/her own kids is a waste of money.
No, it's not if it aids children...again WHAT line of work do you propose a 4 year old taker to support itself when it's parents can't? That is yet ANOTHER of many questions you cannot answer. And you couldn't refute : People who hate and denigrate the poor and loathe the idea of helping children and supporting their country aren't much better.....
Hey, let's get back on topic...can you answer the OP's question?: ""Which option would you choose, to pay child support""" (through taxes) """""or force the woman to have an abortion?""
Pay child support. Forcing somebody to have a medical procedure is ridiculous. One of the risks of having sex is certainly that it could result in a new person and a new responsibility. A reason that abortion is unambiguously okay is that an embryo/fetus at the time that abortion occurs is not yet a person. But the father does not have control over whether the fetus will become a person because the fetus is not growing in his body. It's just how it is. On the other hand, at least he doesn't have to deal with pregnancy.
If they're a person with a conscious existence sure. Having not achieved this, an embryo is even less morally relevant than the animals we eat.
Good post and you make a good point that for all the screaming about poor little men not having a choice or whatever they whine about at the moment, they still will never ever have to be pregnant....and they should just relish that and then shut up...
Neither. It's not an either or. If she chooses to have the child, it's not my place to support it. It's was her choice and her place to support her child. Your belief that those of us told what a woman does with her body is her business should pay a penny toward support of a child SHE chose to have is promoting irresponsibility.
Rights do not depend on whether or not children need aid. You may not think it's your place to "support it" (according to you) but we all support each other Your taxes WILL go towards helping others
No one has a right to another person’s money. That people rely on welfare proves my superiority to them. I do what they’ve proven they won’t do but should be doing.
OK, this thread has nothing to do with taxpayer support. It is the woman chooses to have the child, through paternity test she proves you are the Father and the courts rule you have to pay child support for 18 years. Now here is where the choice is. Do you, the father, who does not want the child, sue to force her to have the abortion, or to disenfranchise yourself from the baby?
As long as I as a taxpayer don’t have to fund any choice she makes related to her body, I’m good. That includes contraception, abortion, or support for her child. Let her have all the abortions she wants. Maybe one will be botched.
Everyone pays school taxes, so you are supporting other people's children. But if they woman decides to have the child, and that puts you up for paying child support...does it change your mind about it only being her choice?
As a taxpayer you have no choice where your taxes go. And your sick misogynistic comment is hardly a surprise.
